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#1 2005-08-05 1:56 pm

XYZ
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Disappearing posts

It's bad enough for moderators to troll and bully. It's worse for them to want to have the last word so much that posts are deleted.

Pathetic.


there's really no need for all of this

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#2 2005-08-05 1:59 pm

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Re: Disappearing posts

Can you post a link to the thread you're having trouble with?

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#3 2005-08-05 2:04 pm

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Re: Disappearing posts


Join the MAF AudioScrobbler group.
Protest ist, wenn ich sage, das und das paßt mir nicht. Widerstand ist, wenn ich dafür sorge, daß das, was mir nicht paßt, nicht länger geschieht.

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#4 2005-08-05 2:06 pm

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Re: Disappearing posts

No posts were deleted from that thread, AFAIK.

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#5 2005-08-05 2:26 pm

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Re: Disappearing posts

He means the eWorld thread in The Rant Room. Post were deleted from it because they were nothing more than an attempt to drag the thread off topic. Again.

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#6 2005-08-05 3:02 pm

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Re: Disappearing posts

Then all is well and good.

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#7 2005-08-05 3:21 pm

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Re: Disappearing posts

Now you see it, now you don't http://homepage.mac.com/oatmeal/MAF/maxes/magicmax2.gif *poof!*

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#8 2005-08-05 4:53 pm

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Re: Disappearing posts

ukimalefu wrote:

http://homepage.mac.com/oatmeal/MAF/maxes/magicmax2.gif *poof!*

Homophobe.

Okay, I'll stop it now.

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#9 2005-08-05 5:05 pm

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Re: Disappearing posts

reefdog wrote:

No posts were deleted from that thread, AFAIK.

Posts following Alien's second "whiney bitch" comment were deleted, so he could have the last off-topic word. It's even more pathetic than the trolling.


there's really no need for all of this

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#10 2005-08-05 5:06 pm

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Re: Disappearing posts

reefdog wrote:

Then all is well and good.

You missed the other topic in here, I see. There's nothing "all well and good" about trolling and abusive mods. But, it doesn't seem like anyone cares. I do think, though, that deleting comments from the topic so one can have the last petty word makes the whole thing all the more absurd.


there's really no need for all of this

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#11 2005-08-05 5:16 pm

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Re: Disappearing posts

Yep. But what are you going to do about it? Hopefully, shut up and ignore it. That way the hate can fester until you murder Alien and, meanwhile, we all stay on-topic and have productive, happy threads.


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#12 2005-08-05 5:16 pm

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Re: Disappearing posts

leave then please. really.

that  would be ever so nice.

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#13 2005-08-05 5:18 pm

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Re: Disappearing posts

If you did leave, could you give some of your capitals to gozer? I mean if you don't need them all...


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#14 2005-08-05 7:18 pm

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Gozer seems to be remembering something that I remember too: repeated declarations over the years that if things don't improve that you'll be leaving.  According to you nothing has improved, yet you're still here.  Curious. 

Leaving does present itself as a solution, since you hate everyone so much.  After all, no one is forcing you to post here.

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#15 2005-08-05 9:02 pm

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Re: Disappearing posts

i am
tito


shut up tito.
PICES
indeed.

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#16 2005-08-05 9:44 pm

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Re: Disappearing posts

Actually, I've been awaiting the "smurf MAF, I'm leaving." thread by XYRonald ReaganZ for a while now. Don't dissapoint me, dammit.


You have an absolutely breath-taking... heiney. I mean, that thing's good. I wanna be friends with it.

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#17 2005-08-05 9:46 pm

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Re: Disappearing posts

XYZ wrote:

reefdog wrote:

Then all is well and good.

You missed the other topic in here, I see. There's nothing "all well and good" about trolling and abusive mods. But, it doesn't seem like anyone cares. I do think, though, that deleting comments from the topic so one can have the last petty word makes the whole thing all the more absurd.

You seem to be working on the assumption that Alien was the one who deleted the posts.

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#18 2005-08-06 12:31 am

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Re: Disappearing posts

benightedbastard wrote:

XYZ wrote:

reefdog wrote:

Then all is well and good.

You missed the other topic in here, I see. There's nothing "all well and good" about trolling and abusive mods. But, it doesn't seem like anyone cares. I do think, though, that deleting comments from the topic so one can have the last petty word makes the whole thing all the more absurd.

You seem to be working on the assumption that Alien was the one who deleted the posts.

what are you, a mod? jeez, some people
tito


shut up tito.
PICES
indeed.

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#19 2005-08-06 12:34 am

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Re: Disappearing posts

titok16 wrote:

i am
tito

Why you insolent smurf. FREE HIM FROM YOUR TYRANNY


Spirit was crushed; now is fading, But I want to help make things right.
Because I can see and I can feel, and you can see and you can feel
So why don't we both either stand up and fight
Or at least together we'll call it a night.

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#20 2005-08-06 12:51 am

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Re: Disappearing posts

*yawn*


The storm starts when the drops start dropping.  When the drops stop dropping, the storm starts stopping.

Last Fm

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#21 2005-08-06 9:37 am

XYZ
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Re: Disappearing posts

oatmeal wrote:

Leaving does present itself as a solution, since you hate everyone so much.  After all, no one is forcing you to post here.

Oatmeal, you and others can choose to blame me for bad behavior on the part of others if you like. Nothing in that eWorld topic justifies Alien's personal attacks/trolling. He admitted that there's nothing in the topic that caused him to call me a "whiney bitch" and a troll. Instead, he tried to justify his abuse with "look around the forums". I suggested that he take a look at one of the many topics I contribute to with insightful posts, such as Debbie's Hillary Clinton topic.

Take off the blinders. When I have a complaint, it's not necessarily because there's some flaw in my character. Often, my complaints are perfectly legitimate, as they are concerning Alien.

Let's look, for instance, at Alien's "his comments were off-topic" justification for deleting the posts that came after his last personal attack in the topic.

Number of posts about eWorld by XYZ in the eWorld topic: 1
Number of posts about eWorld in the eWorld topic by Alien: 0
Number of personal attacks in the eWorld topic by XYZ: 0
Number of personal attacks in the eWorld topic by Alien: 3

What we have here is a moderator who was way out of line and has recently resorted to deleting posts in order to have the last petty personal attack post.

Far from this being an example of me "hating everyone here", it's an example of a person whose behavior is incompatible with the moderator position. Apparently, I'm not the only person who he's lashed out at.

You can also see some further trolling by DVPierce and Icarus here:
http://www.macaddict.com/forums/topic/66637

Yes, plenty of moderators troll me. A few years ago, Jehannum, after trolling me, said "I just like to piss XYZ off". He pointed out later that he wasn't a moderator at the time, so his comment doesn't relate to his moderation. But, it's a fact that I get trolled and it's not my fault.

I was labeled a software pirate erroneously by Scott who was applauded by benighted for his personal attacks and who proceeded to personally attack me in his "apology", suggesting that I purposefully led him to believe I'm a software pirate so I could be a martyr.

The double-standard needs to go. It's one thing to post a somewhat strident critique of an operating system (an anomaly when compared to the vast majority of my posts in the last year) and quite another to personally attack other posters. Apparently, many think a corporation or piece of software is sacrosanct while name-calling and trolling is par for the course.

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#22 2005-08-06 9:42 am

XYZ
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Re: Disappearing posts

benightedbastard wrote:

XYZ wrote:

reefdog wrote:

Then all is well and good.

You missed the other topic in here, I see. There's nothing "all well and good" about trolling and abusive mods. But, it doesn't seem like anyone cares. I do think, though, that deleting comments from the topic so one can have the last petty word makes the whole thing all the more absurd.

You seem to be working on the assumption that Alien was the one who deleted the posts.

It's the wrong thing to do, no matter who did it.

If anyone is concerned with doing the correct thing in the Rant Room, that person should make sure the topics there are:

1. Rants.
2. Contain no personal attacks. Remember? "It's the Rant Room, not the Jerk Room".

It's pretty pathetic to leave three personal attacks in a topic that's not even a rant and then justify the deletion of the one rant in the topic because it's supposedly "off-topic". Was I the only poster who said anything about eWorld in response to the original post?

Like it or not, that topic wasn't a rant. It didn't belong in the Rant Room, and there's no justification for trolling me in that topic. That snide posting of the definition of rant wasn't enough to "put me in my place", I guess. It was necessarily instead to resort to name-calling...


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#23 2005-08-06 9:45 am

XYZ
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Re: Disappearing posts

This whole thing could have been handled with the deletion of the eWorld topic, since it was dead from post 1. The recognition that there's no justification for the personal attacks would have been nice, too. Instead, this has been dragged out because of an unwillingness to do the right thing and an apparent pleasure in having the name-calling stand.


there's really no need for all of this

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#24 2005-08-06 10:02 am

Thrica
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Re: Disappearing posts

"Number of posts about eWorld in the eWorld topic by Alien: 0"?

Alien wrote:

eWorld, in a way, became AOL.

Alien wrote:

Which was co-developed by Apple.

http://chris2x.com/C600416119/E831490360/

Who the heck are you to say it's not a rant, anyway? It certainly fit the definition posted, which it seems you didn't read, and still have not read.

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#25 2005-08-06 10:04 am

XYZ
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Re: Disappearing posts

Looked nice!
On paper anyways.
Wish I could have had a go.
Maybe a similar thing could be integrated in .Mac?

This is a rant?

Further, what in the topic justifies calling me a whiny bitch and a troll? My first response was about eWorld.


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