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here's my two cents.

i'm not some kind of bigtime aethiest or anything, i still have religious beliefs, except i believe that intelligent design is ridiculous. it doesn't even seem valid as an argument to me. here we have darwin with a well thought out idea, but the main argument for that is "a god created everything"? it doesn't work out for me. like, in the schools where they only teach that "god created everything" in biology classes won't be that useful if you wanna be a scientist...anyway, if "god created everything", then where did god come from? there would have to be something before god. i've talked to people that believe in intelligent design and they just say "god was always there and will always be there". um, insufficent answer. i'm sorry but i can't accept the fact that there was no beginning.

NAG wrote:

So I take it res is never going to post the list. Oh well, can't wait for him to say he posted it in another thread.

I'll post it - I just haven't bothered to make it yet.
It's not high priority for me because I know everyone here knows that there are Ph.D. holding qualified scientists that are creationist.

So res, to be fair. I thought I would just mention that I actually did your job for you. I didn't post it before, but I am tired of this game so here. Link Oh, and here is a link of some other scientists. Link Supplement

resedit wrote:

I just found a couple links myself:

http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=res … reationsci
http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=res … rch_biosci

One is for physical sciences
One is for biological sciences

Now - do you remember what I said to make you ask for a list?
Since you found such a list yourself (it isn't hard), are you willing to concede that point?

Res, did you even read my post?

NAG wrote:

resedit wrote:

I just found a couple links myself:

http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=res … reationsci
http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=res … rch_biosci

One is for physical sciences
One is for biological sciences

Now - do you remember what I said to make you ask for a list?
Since you found such a list yourself (it isn't hard), are you willing to concede that point?

Res, did you even read my post?

Read your post - yes.
Opened the PDF file - no. I trusted it had what you said it had.

Last edited by resedit (2005-08-17 1:50 pm)

NAG wrote:

resedit wrote:

NAG wrote:

Res, did you even read my post?

Read your post - yes.
Opened the PDF file - no.

I suggest you read all of the links.

Why?
Do they somehow invalidate the lists of scientists?
Did they get their credentials revoked from the awarding universities?

So you have a list of people defending evolution.
I concede that there are scientists who defend evolution, I have never disputed that. What was your point?

Wow, this is great.

I've gotten some popcorn that goes great with this kind of entertainment. Meanwhile, I've given up in arguing with res because its obivous he won't believe anything other than YE.
That list you posted is tiny in comparison to the amount of scientists that believe OE/evolution.

NAG wrote:

Did you read the supplement?

Yes.
What are you getting at?

resedit wrote:

NAG wrote:

Did you read the supplement?

Yes.
What are you getting at?

Did you read it or did you just click the link, see a bunch of other links, and declare you read the link without actually reading?

Tell me your opinion of what you read.

Res, you continuously complain and whine about how no one wants to hear your opinion but whenever you are asked for it, you dodge and evade via silly tactics that are not informative and are frankly useless.

NAG wrote:

Res, you continuously complain and whine about how no one wants to hear your opinion but whenever you are asked for it, you dodge and evade via silly tactics that are not informative and are frankly useless.

When have I ever "continuously complained and whined" about how no one wants to hear my opinion? Give me one freaking instance.

If I were taking a class and you were the teacher giving a reading assingment and then ask for my opinion, that would be one thing.

You post a link. I read it. I have no idea what the hell your point is - and you don't seem to want to give it, so since I'm not your student, make your point or drop it.