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#1 2005-08-13 10:09 pm

RoboCop001
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HP Printer takes a year to print

Hellooooo. I've got an all-in-one HP. Personally I'd never buy an HP anything, but it was given to me, so hey.

Anyway. I've got a slot-loading 350MHz slot-loading iMac, so it's USB 1.1. It's running 10.3.9.

Whenever I print something, no matter if it's a TextEdit document or a really big PDF, it takes a very long time to even start printing.

After about 2 minutes after seeing the "Processing Page" box, it would take in the paper and begin to print. But then, it would pause for about 30 seconds or so. It does that about two times for every page it prints. So, print a little, pause a little.

Is it the crappy HP software? It might be because the EPSON printed just fine, but that used Apple's print thing. HP has their own stupid version, not to mention 50 different applications to do 5 things. Their software reeks of Windows. It's too bad you can't use Image Capture and etc with the HP like the EPSON could.

Or is it USB 1?... no, it can't be that. The EPSON worked fine.

I really can't think of anything else other than the problem being with the software. But they wouldn't make it THAT bad.... so what is it??

And uh... doesn anyone know why HP has the paper load in the same place that it comes out? That's annoying and takes up space because the paper tray is always sticking out. Just wondering.

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On a completely unrelated note.... the built-in CD-ROM drive randomly ejects CDs. Sometimes I have to put a CD in more than once for it to start spinning. A few times it ejected it immediately 5 times in a row!

I also notice the CDs come out VERY hot, even after a short period of use. Does it eject when it gets too hot? Is it just old? Is there some dirt in there that's doing that? I don't think it's the OS because the external burner doesn't do that.

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#2 2005-08-13 10:16 pm

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Re: HP Printer takes a year to print

Maybe you need to turn down the laser in that CD drive down a little.... smile

It doesn't sound good. I would just use the burner as a CD drive from now on. It's probably faster at reading, anyway.

My company used to have an HP inkjet hooked up to a PC and it did the same crap. Maybe you can try another HP driver or check HP for an update. When you print, you are going through the Apple print dialogs, right? You must be.


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#3 2005-08-13 10:22 pm

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Re: HP Printer takes a year to print

Yeah I'm starting to use the burner as the main drive now. But it's still nice to have two, especially for duplicating CDs. But I guess making disc images of CDs won't hurt, just be a bit tedious.

..... what's the difference between disc and disk??

If I could turn down the laser, that would be awesome. But that's just crazy sci-fi nonsense. Wait a minute.... sci-fi? ... nonsense?? ... maybe I can use it as a phaser. Yes! I'll use it to shoot the printer.



Driver update... why didn't I think of that! I'll check that out, thanks!

Yes, I'm using the Apple print dialogue.


I highly doubt it's faster at reading, though. Because of USB 1.1, the burner is limited to 4x, or at least that's what I think. I could be wrong, but it deffinetly doesn't go to its max.

So, if I'm right, the internal one is faster... or just about the same.

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#4 2005-08-17 8:02 pm

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Re: HP Printer takes a year to print

the first think:How may ram you have on it (your mac) don't forget some program use additionnal fonts and something os X need to translate to printer and require more memory. And also don't forgot the age of your computer. The drive speed (for memory temp file etc). And you need 25% of hardrive free space ex:temp file etc...

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#5 2005-08-17 8:05 pm

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Re: HP Printer takes a year to print

i forgot the drive and the cd-rom drive connect on the same wire. also cd-rom and hard-drive in the same enclosure maybe the drive come hot. usually your heard the drive do some noise that usuall= maybe a new drive require. check all this stuff

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#6 2005-08-17 9:16 pm

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Re: HP Printer takes a year to print

Hmm.. well I've got 320MB of RAM, but it runs very well. The computer is about 5 years old.

In the case of the printer, it's probably the printer itself, or the HP software.




About the CD-ROM drive.... I recently used another iMac that's identical to this one and the CDs came out hot. The drive also sounds exactly the same, so I'm pretty sure it's the same drive. So I guess it's just the CD-ROM drive model and it's just like that.

But it's weird that it just randomly ejects. Why would it do that?


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#7 2005-08-17 11:08 pm

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Re: HP Printer takes a year to print

Robo, have you tried replacing the proprietary software with Gimp Print?  I found that helpful before moving to new PowerBook G4.

But, some printers, particularly all-in-ones, just take a long time to warm up.  My Epson whirs for at least a couple minutes when first turned on or if it has been on, but not in use.

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#8 2005-08-18 7:02 am

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Re: HP Printer takes a year to print

Hmm.... Gimp Print? I've always heard of that, but I never knew what it was. How would I go about setting that up?


Maybe it does take a while to warm up..... it's always off, and I only turn it on when I need to print. But when I do print something, it doesn't start moving around as if it's adjusting stuff, or getting ready. It just sits there doing nothing as if I haven't told it to print. It takes about 4 minutes or so to start anything. Isn't that a bit long for a warm up? (I haven't actually timed it, but it is a really long time).

I just updated the driver and I'm about to print something when I'm done in about an hour. Hopefully the updated driver works better, but we'll see. I'd like to know about Gimp Print either way, though.


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#9 2005-08-18 8:57 am

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Re: HP Printer takes a year to print

Keep it on.  It won't hurt it.  I actually find that the ink lasts longer too, as for some strange reason, turning on a printer eats ink.

Gimp Print is already installed on your computer.  To set it up, just go to add the printer driver in the Printer Setup Utility.  In the Print Using drop down menu, the driver using Gimp-Print are labeled "Gimp Print".  Just select the appropriate one.


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#10 2005-08-18 11:47 am

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Re: HP Printer takes a year to print

You can download and install Gimp-Print 5.0 beta 2 which is a later version with more  and better drivers than those included with either Panther or Tiger. cool Be sure and read this FAQ that explains how to setup Gimp-Print and install a Gimp-Print driver. wink

For what it is worth, you can install and use Gimp-Print drivers alongside the factory drivers without either conflicting with the other. big_smile


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#11 2005-08-19 10:00 am

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Re: HP Printer takes a year to print

I just checked the compatability list, and my printer doesn't show up anywhere. It's not even on the list of "These printers work with the drivers from these printers". The closest one said "Operational" and not "Fully Operational" anyway, so I won't install Gimp-Print.

I actually didn't install Gimp-Print in the beginning because I thought I'd never use it. And to save space.... as well as other printer drivers other than EPSON. But anyway.



Ok.... now my evil HP PSC 1315xi won't even print. Damn you updated HP driver. What the hell.

When I try to print, it says the print jobs are stopped. I start them, and then the HP's equivelant to Printer Setup Utility thingy launches. First it shows a little document on the Dock's printer icon, which is normal and says there's a document printing. Then it shows a red exclamation mark. So I click on the icon, and click on Start Jobs. It says "Opening Printer Connection" and then it says that the jobs are stopped again.

Printing out a Test Page works, but printing from any other application other than HPs utility thing doesn't work.

So I've reinstalled the software to the original driver. It works now, but it still pauses in mid-print. It doesn't take too long to start printing, though.

But it still pauses, even for a small TextEdit document.


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#12 2005-08-19 11:20 am

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Re: HP Printer takes a year to print

Now every time I log in, the Dock seems to relaunch and HP throws it's HP Director into it. It's not open, but it's in the dock.

And just before that happens, something called "pipedaemon" launches, does half a bounce, and dissapears. I know the name from checking the Recent Applications menu.

I rememer it doing this when I originaly installed the software. Do I need HP Director for it to work properly? I forgot how I fixed this "problem" last time.... I think I took pipedaemon out of login items, but it's not there. So I must have done something else.... Maybe there's a preference in HP Director, or something.

Anyways.... does anyone know what exactly pipedaemon does, or if I really really need HP Director, or why the printer pauses in mid-print?

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#13 2005-08-19 11:36 am

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Re: HP Printer takes a year to print

In answer to your easiest question [wink] :
Disc is a circular thing, disk is an infomation storage devvice. But you can usually use either because HD's use discs too. I think 'disk' looks nicer. Use that.


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