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#1 2007-09-17 8:09 pm

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Biege G3 AV

Does anyone know of a good OS9 program for capturing vhs- tape on my biege G3?

I've used Strata Digital Video Base and/or BTV - both seen OK.... but when I pull the files into Finalcut on my dual G4 OSX, the clips seem to drag and the audio is noticeably slowed down. Is it just the Setting I'm using? Are there certain frame rates to use? ---I tried using OSX on the machine, but I couldn't get it to use the Apple AV Card - although it shows up in the system profiler... Anyone have any experience with digitizing on the old AV models....? know any tips or tricks......?


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#2 2007-09-17 9:23 pm

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Re: Biege G3 AV

I did just what your talking about many years ago with Adobe Premiere (Classic Version). Where you'll find that now, other than buying someones old disks, I have no idea.


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#3 2007-09-17 9:40 pm

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Re: Biege G3 AV

Unfortunately the AV aspect is pretty much useless unless you were to install the original Mac OS 8. None of the newer versions of Mac OS will use it.

Any Beige G3 is rather underpowered in terms of RAM (768 MB max) and CPU speed (333 MHz G3) and bus speed (66 MHz). Any of these will be a serious bottleneck when dealing with video. I think it would be better to find some adapter which would allow your dual G4 to handle the video.

EDIT: my foggy memory corrected by Orion below.

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#4 2007-09-17 9:48 pm

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Re: Biege G3 AV

Apple Doctor wrote:

Does anyone know of a good OS9 program for capturing vhs- tape on my biege G3?

I've used Strata Digital Video Base and/or BTV - both seen OK.... but when I pull the files into Finalcut on my dual G4 OSX, the clips seem to drag and the audio is noticeably slowed down. Is it just the Setting I'm using? Are there certain frame rates to use? ---I tried using OSX on the machine, but I couldn't get it to use the Apple AV Card - although it shows up in the system profiler... Anyone have any experience with digitizing on the old AV models....? know any tips or tricks......?

You should have the Apple Video Player or similar name, that it the native capture tool apple provides with the AV personality card. If you capture with that you will end up with a funny looking file with, oddly enough, a Simpletext icon. You can open this with Quicktime and convert. I am pretty sure the OS9 QT can covert the capture to a digital stream format that I should think would work well in OSX.

I am not at all an expert but tinkered a bit with the AV capabilities of my old G3.
You are correct that Apple abandoned the AV models with OSX. Rather a kick in the crotch to people who's pro level AV macs werent very old at the time.

Last edited by Pariah (2007-09-17 9:51 pm)


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#5 2007-09-18 6:42 am

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Re: Biege G3 AV

D'Eyncourt wrote:

Unfortunately the AV aspect is pretty much useless unless you were to install the original Mac OS (I think that this was OS 7). None of the newer versions of Mac OS will use it.

Any Beige G3 is rather underpowered in terms of RAM (768 MB max) and CPU speed (333 MHz G3) and bus speed (66 MHz). Any of these will be a serious bottleneck when dealing with video. I think it would be better to find some adapter which would allow your dual G4 to handle the video.

The minimum OS for the Beige G3's was 8.0 or 8.1 depending on when you bought yours.  The 8.0 cd needed a special bootloader in order to work, but it was quickly replaced with 8.1 anyway.  My Beige came with 8.0, and the others I have all came with 8.1.


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#6 2007-09-18 1:57 pm

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Re: Biege G3 AV

Apple Doctor wrote:

Does anyone know of a good OS9 program for capturing vhs- tape on my biege G3?

I've got an adapter/converter thing I used to use on an OS9 machine, I'll gladly ship it to ya if I can find it in the Scary Closet of Expired Mac Stuff at home. Lemme know if you're interested, I'll get info on it later on tonight if so.

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#7 2007-09-23 10:21 am

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Re: Biege G3 AV

Thanks - I've been away from this post a couple of days... I never even thought about Apple Video Player....There I go looking for something I already have...

Works Fine...

Thanks again !


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