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#1 2007-09-30 12:49 pm
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Woman dies while in custody at Phoenix airport
Source. This article is somewhat more concerned that the woman involved is apparently a NYC socialite.
I did find this quote by a police spokesman rather interesting:
It appeared as though Ms. Gotbaum had possibly tried to manipulate the handcuffs from behind her to the front, got tangled up in the process, and they ended up around her neck area.
Contemplate that for a while, please?
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#2 2007-09-30 12:54 pm
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Re: Woman dies while in custody at Phoenix airport
She suffocated herself trying to escape? Well, obviously I think the family should sue the police for arresting her then.
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#3 2007-09-30 12:59 pm
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Re: Woman dies while in custody at Phoenix airport
D'Eyncourt wrote:
Source. This article is somewhat more concerned that the woman involved is apparently a NYC socialite.
I did find this quote by a police spokesman rather interesting:It appeared as though Ms. Gotbaum had possibly tried to manipulate the handcuffs from behind her to the front, got tangled up in the process, and they ended up around her neck area.
Contemplate that for a while, please?
I tried to picture it, but it hurt so I stopped.
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#4 2007-09-30 1:12 pm
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#5 2007-09-30 1:25 pm
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Re: Woman dies while in custody at Phoenix airport
Shot trying to escape!
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#7 2007-09-30 2:09 pm
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Re: Woman dies while in custody at Phoenix airport
"Evil will always triumph because Good is dumb."
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#8 2007-09-30 2:11 pm
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Re: Woman dies while in custody at Phoenix airport
Ordinarily, I'd chalk this up to an idiot but Maricopa County does make me wonder...
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#9 2007-09-30 2:13 pm
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Re: Woman dies while in custody at Phoenix airport
Authorities said neither a Taser nor pepper spray was used on the woman.
The recent medical controversy over whether vaccinations cause autism reveals a habit of human cognition—thinking anecdotally comes naturally, whereas thinking scientifically does not. -- Michael Shermer
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#10 2007-09-30 2:28 pm
Re: Woman dies while in custody at Phoenix airport
If she was in a holding cell, why was she still cuffed?
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#12 2007-09-30 9:05 pm
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Re: Woman dies while in custody at Phoenix airport
I sat here trying to imagine any possible series of contortions I could engage in to strangle myself with my own arms.
Doesn't seem possible to me.
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#14 2007-09-30 10:52 pm
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Re: Woman dies while in custody at Phoenix airport
well, obviously, she was trying to escape.
"Evil will always triumph because Good is dumb."
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#15 2007-09-30 10:56 pm
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Re: Woman dies while in custody at Phoenix airport
Metacell wrote:
JakeTheTall wrote:
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!
Thank you ! I'm so proud...an idea has become an institution !
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Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim. Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet." They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.
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#16 2007-09-30 11:47 pm
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Re: Woman dies while in custody at Phoenix airport
Pariah wrote:
I sat here trying to imagine any possible series of contortions I could engage in to strangle myself with my own arms.
Doesn't seem possible to me.
Yeah, I'm confused. To say the least.
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#17 2007-10-01 12:00 am
Re: Woman dies while in custody at Phoenix airport
Yeah - I don't think we are hearing the whole truth from the cops.
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#18 2007-10-01 12:18 am
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Re: Woman dies while in custody at Phoenix airport
JakeTheTall wrote:
Metacell wrote:
JakeTheTall wrote:
http://www.maclife.com/forums/img/avatars/21960.gifDon't do the crime if you can't do the time!
Thank you ! I'm so proud...an idea has become an institution !
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Every time I see this used I laugh loudly and my roommate wakes up and is upset with me for waking him up from his drunken slumber. So really, it's an example of the phrase in ACTION!
i don't understand most things
i don't really want to
i just want the strength
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#19 2007-10-01 1:05 am
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Re: Woman dies while in custody at Phoenix airport
Tallgeese wrote:
Ordinarily, I'd chalk this up to an idiot but Maricopa County does make me wonder...
That's true. I wonder if the family will insist upon independent observation (if not outright supervision)?
BOYCOTT SONY
"I think the question now is not whether you went to Vietnam or whether you didn't, whether you fought in the war or fought against the war. I think the only question is whether we can find a president smart enough never to make a mistake like that again"--Molly Ivins, way back in 1992
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#20 2007-10-01 9:09 am
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Re: Woman dies while in custody at Phoenix airport
Tallgeese wrote:
Ordinarily, I'd chalk this up to an idiot but Maricopa County does make me wonder...
dude, 9-11.
"Evil will always triumph because Good is dumb."
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#21 2007-10-01 10:33 am
Re: Woman dies while in custody at Phoenix airport
resedit wrote:
Yeah - I don't think we are hearing the whole truth from the cops.
Cops? Obfuscating the truth? NO WAI!
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#22 2007-10-01 11:11 am
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Re: Woman dies while in custody at Phoenix airport
Well, we here in Arizona don't take kindly to eaterners acting all uppity and distressed because they missed their flight.
Act like a fool here.... it WILL cost you your life.
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#23 2007-10-01 1:39 pm
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Re: Woman dies while in custody at Phoenix airport
TonyPrevite wrote:
Well, we here in Arizona don't take kindly to eaterners acting all uppity and distressed because they missed their flight.
Act like a fool here.... it WILL cost you your life.
Well said!
Just remember that folks, Arizona takes a dim view of your liberal, and terrorist ways.
By the way, they are working on getting rid of the U.S. Constitution in Arizona, it interferes with the execution. I mean the execution of the laws of the state of Arizona.
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#24 2007-10-01 2:22 pm
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Re: Woman dies while in custody at Phoenix airport
You know the more I think about this, the more it seems contrived. What was she double jointed? Or did her arms mearly rotate 360 degrees in all directions. The discription isn't enough for me to believe what they are saying.
Did they mean to say that her clothing became wrapped around her neck?
The way you attempt to get your hand from behind your back is by passing them under you feet, from back to front. The human body doesn't bend in other directions.
It looks bad for the police. On the face it appears to be a wrongful death suit at best, and manslaughter at worst.
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#25 2007-10-01 2:26 pm
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Re: Woman dies while in custody at Phoenix airport
Sturner, she was also shackled to a bench.
I'd say it was a failed attempt to escape, at best.
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