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#26 2007-10-06 4:37 am
- Kosh
- The Enigmatic One

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Re: That's Reverend SpacemanSpiff
Congrats 
I was ordained by the ULC in 2000, so yes, I am Reverend Kosh. I didn't originally become ordained to perform a marriage or even to piss anyone off. A few years ago, one of my friends was considering getting married, and wanted me to perform the ceremony, but the marriage ended up never happening, so I have yet to use my "ministerial powers". 
The laws do vary state-to-state (and in different countries), with some states requiring you to register in your county or state before being "authorized" to perform marriage ceremonies, others not pre-requiring anything, and yet others seeming to be in flux. In any case, it is a good idea to find out what you need to do, since at a minimum, you need to file the marriage certificate to make it legal.
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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#27 2007-10-06 4:46 am
- SpacemanSpiff
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Re: That's Reverend SpacemanSpiff
The WA laws are pretty lax. So we are 'good to go' if you will.
I still think the whole experience is one that I will cherish for a long, long time.
...And I found out that "everyone" thought I did a real good job. Woo Hoo!
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#28 2007-10-06 4:54 am
- Pariah
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Re: That's Reverend SpacemanSpiff
I was ordained by the ULC right after they started up back in the early 70's. I wonder if I am still in good standing?
"and it's not surprising that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
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#29 2007-10-06 5:14 am
- Kosh
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Re: That's Reverend SpacemanSpiff
Pariah wrote:
I was ordained by the ULC right after they started up back in the early 70's. I wonder if I am still in good standing?
Did you see their ad in the back of Rolling Stone, or some other means? 
You should be. Do you still have your original ordination certificate? It shouldn't matter, but if they don't have records from back that far in the current computerized database (and you care), you should be able to tell them your info.
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#30 2007-10-06 7:11 am
- Pariah
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Re: That's Reverend SpacemanSpiff
Kosh wrote:
Pariah wrote:
I was ordained by the ULC right after they started up back in the early 70's. I wonder if I am still in good standing?
Did you see their ad in the back of Rolling Stone, or some other means?
You should be. Do you still have your original ordination certificate? It shouldn't matter, but if they don't have records from back that far in the current computerized database (and you care), you should be able to tell them your info.
I am pretty sure I got the address of the ULC out Abbie Hoffman's Steal This Book. Thats a counter culture guide and handbook with some good terrorism tips included.
"and it's not surprising that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
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#31 2007-10-06 1:22 pm
- SpacemanSpiff
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Re: That's Reverend SpacemanSpiff
Pariah wrote:
Kosh wrote:
Pariah wrote:
I was ordained by the ULC right after they started up back in the early 70's. I wonder if I am still in good standing?
Did you see their ad in the back of Rolling Stone, or some other means?
You should be. Do you still have your original ordination certificate? It shouldn't matter, but if they don't have records from back that far in the current computerized database (and you care), you should be able to tell them your info.I am pretty sure I got the address of the ULC out Abbie Hoffman's Steal This Book. Thats a counter culture guide and handbook with some good terrorism tips included.
Cool. A terrorism mention in my thread. Awesome!
But, alas, I only use my counter culture powers for good....
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#32 2007-10-07 3:57 pm
- evilproducer
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Re: That's Reverend SpacemanSpiff
user wrote:
In Penn., you can self-marry. No officiant needed at all. One couple had their dog "preside".
More than likely that's a hold-over from the Quakers (International Society Of Friends.) Quaker marriage ceremonies are by consensus of the meeting. There is no traditional clergy. The group is the clergy. Although there are some more evangelical Quaker meetings with a lay clergy. More so in the western states I believe.
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#33 2007-10-07 4:06 pm
- evilproducer
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Re: That's Reverend SpacemanSpiff
My Dad is a ULC ordained reverend. He married my wife and I, two of my brothers and their wives and two of my best friends.
He regularly performs ceremonies for people around Wisconsin and I think once in Michigan. Mostly the wedding "jobs" he gets are referrals from people who he has performed ceremonies for. He would like to do it for free, but with the price of fuel he has had to ask for specific mileage. He also asks for a donation, but I know of plenty of people he's married gratis (aside from his kids.)
He likes to perform non-traditional ceremonies. I know he performed a Viking ceremony that a couple requested. He did a bit of research on that one. I would have loved to go to that one! What tux goes with a horned helmet? 
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#34 2007-10-07 4:20 pm
Re: That's Reverend SpacemanSpiff
Phydeaux wrote:
my sister remarried again earlier this year to a, while crazy Fox News fanatic
So you're my new brother in law!
Small world ...
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Jenny had a pistol in the other
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#35 2007-10-07 7:41 pm
- Tallgeese
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Re: That's Reverend SpacemanSpiff
Phydeaux wrote:
After a particularly disastrous first marriage, and a pastor that I'd happily engage in fisticuffs with, my sister remarried again earlier this year to a, while crazy Fox News fanatic, still a better, hard-working guy. I didn't have any objections.
I'd think not - you don't owe alimony any more.
I still believe in liberalism today as much as I ever did, but, oh, there was a happy time when I believed in liberals.
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#36 2007-10-07 10:11 pm
- SpacemanSpiff
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Re: That's Reverend SpacemanSpiff
Tallgeese wrote:
Phydeaux wrote:
After a particularly disastrous first marriage, and a pastor that I'd happily engage in fisticuffs with, my sister remarried again earlier this year to a, while crazy Fox News fanatic, still a better, hard-working guy. I didn't have any objections.
I'd think not - you don't owe alimony any more.

Good to have you here Tallgeesie
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#37 2007-10-08 7:40 am
- Daddyo
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Re: That's Reverend SpacemanSpiff
Now you can start squandering your money and accepting gift cars from friends.
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A billion seconds is 31 years.
A trillion seconds is 31,688 years.
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#38 2007-10-08 8:32 am
- user
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Re: That's Reverend SpacemanSpiff
evilproducer wrote:
user wrote:
In Penn., you can self-marry. No officiant needed at all. One couple had their dog "preside".
More than likely that's a hold-over from the Quakers (International Society Of Friends.) Quaker marriage ceremonies are by consensus of the meeting. There is no traditional clergy. The group is the clergy. Although there are some more evangelical Quaker meetings with a lay clergy. More so in the western states I believe.
Later,
Evil.
It was enacted for the Quakers but they have to make it available for anyone regardless of their religion. There was a dust-up recently where an overzealous County employee tried to forbid self-marriage licenses to non-Quakers.
Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.
Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.
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#39 2007-10-08 9:51 am
- sturner
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Re: That's Reverend SpacemanSpiff
Pariah wrote:
I was ordained by the ULC right after they started up back in the early 70's. I wonder if I am still in good standing?
That has two answers. Firstly how could you be in good standing Pariah? Considering it's you we are talking about.
Though if you can stand without falling down, I guess you qualify as in good standing.
I'm not dead yet.
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#40 2007-10-08 11:37 am
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I will stand, or I will fall! I will not sit.
Spirit was crushed; now is fading, But I want to help make things right.
Because I can see and I can feel, and you can see and you can feel
So why don't we both either stand up and fight
Or at least together we'll call it a night.
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#41 2007-10-08 11:39 am
- Tallgeese
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Re: That's Reverend SpacemanSpiff
This could help
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#42 2007-10-08 11:49 am
Re: That's Reverend SpacemanSpiff
Tallgeese wrote:
This could help
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Spirit was crushed; now is fading, But I want to help make things right.
Because I can see and I can feel, and you can see and you can feel
So why don't we both either stand up and fight
Or at least together we'll call it a night.
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#43 2007-10-09 1:36 am
- evilproducer
- Cheese Head

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Re: That's Reverend SpacemanSpiff
user wrote:
It was enacted for the Quakers but they have to make it available for anyone regardless of their religion. There was a dust-up recently where an overzealous County employee tried to forbid self-marriage licenses to non-Quakers.
Well, that would make sense. If you allow one religion to marry that way, then you must allow others. It would be like saying we recognize marriages performed by Cathokics, Jews, Methodists, etc. But not Baptists.
I would question your wording that the law was passed for the Quakers, as it was the Quakers that founded Pennsylvania and may have passed their own laws. Of course I could be wrong as I haven't delved to deeply into it.
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