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#51 2007-10-23 2:49 pm

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Re: Bill Maher Vs. 9/11 Truth Trolls

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resedit wrote:

It wasn't coast to coast - the video of that building falling looked more like intentional demolition to me than anything else.

I'm not a demolition expert - but that's how it looked to me.

If a building is uniformly weakened, that is how it is going to collapse. Like because it had fires raging throughout it all day.

Well sure - it just seems to me odd that it would be uniformly weakened by an unplanned fire - rather than weakened more on one side than another.


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#52 2007-10-23 2:58 pm

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Re: Bill Maher Vs. 9/11 Truth Trolls

resedit wrote:

Chickenhawk wrote:

resedit wrote:

It wasn't coast to coast - the video of that building falling looked more like intentional demolition to me than anything else.

I'm not a demolition expert - but that's how it looked to me.

If a building is uniformly weakened, that is how it is going to collapse. Like because it had fires raging throughout it all day.

Well sure - it just seems to me odd that it would be uniformly weakened by an unplanned fire - rather than weakened more on one side than another.

Liquids like diesel fuel tend to distribute themselves relatively evenly when let loose.
And if the diesel was in the center of the building, it wouldn't even need to move far.

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#53 2007-10-23 3:10 pm

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Re: Bill Maher Vs. 9/11 Truth Trolls

Metacell wrote:

Kennedy was never shot--he was zapped back in time to assassinate Lincoln.

He went back in time to shoot himself. Season seven, episode one. Sheesh, don't you people know anything?

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#54 2007-10-23 3:10 pm

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Re: Bill Maher Vs. 9/11 Truth Trolls

resedit wrote:

I'm not a demolition expert

nuff said

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#55 2007-10-23 3:12 pm

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Alien wrote:

Metacell wrote:

Kennedy was never shot--he was zapped back in time to assassinate Lincoln.

He went back in time to shoot himself. Season seven, episode one. Sheesh, don't you people know anything?

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No, like I said previously, Kennedy WAS Lincoln. And Kennedy-Lincoln was killed by Karl Rove because Bush needed a red state / blue state divide to win in 2000.

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#56 2007-10-23 3:15 pm

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Re: Bill Maher Vs. 9/11 Truth Trolls

But, but, wasn't Marilyn disappointed?


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#57 2007-10-23 3:18 pm

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Re: Bill Maher Vs. 9/11 Truth Trolls

Marilyn and Condi were too distracted gettin' busy with Bigfoot.


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#58 2007-10-23 3:18 pm

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#59 2007-10-23 3:19 pm

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Re: Bill Maher Vs. 9/11 Truth Trolls

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Marilyn and Condi were too distracted gettin' busy with Bigfoot.

Wait... gippy's in on it too???


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#60 2007-10-23 3:26 pm

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But, but, wasn't Marilyn disappointed?

Yes, and the government had to kill her so she wouldn't talk about Kennedy traveling back in time on Spaceship One.

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#61 2007-10-23 3:38 pm

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Re: Bill Maher Vs. 9/11 Truth Trolls

Oh... wait... my head... to ... much... information....


:::: BLAM ::::

Damn! Now I'll have to regrow my head.


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#62 2007-10-23 3:46 pm

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Re: Bill Maher Vs. 9/11 Truth Trolls

Aqua OS X wrote:

resedit wrote:

I'm not a demolition expert

nuff said

Are you?


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#63 2007-10-23 4:15 pm

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Alien wrote:

Metacell wrote:

Kennedy was never shot--he was zapped back in time to assassinate Lincoln.

He went back in time to shoot himself. Season seven, episode one. Sheesh, don't you people know anything?

,xtG
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you smeg head... that information is classified wink


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#64 2007-10-23 4:19 pm

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Re: Bill Maher Vs. 9/11 Truth Trolls

Aqua OS X wrote:

Alien wrote:

Metacell wrote:

Kennedy was never shot--he was zapped back in time to assassinate Lincoln.

He went back in time to shoot himself. Season seven, episode one. Sheesh, don't you people know anything?

,xtG
.tsooJ

No, like I said previously, Kennedy WAS Lincoln. And Kennedy-Lincoln was killed by Karl Rove because Bush needed a red state / blue state divide to win in 2000.

I know I heard somewhere that Kennedy went to Africa to form a band with Bruce Lee and Jim Morrison.


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#65 2007-10-23 4:21 pm

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Re: Bill Maher Vs. 9/11 Truth Trolls

resedit wrote:

Aqua OS X wrote:

resedit wrote:

I'm not a demolition expert

nuff said

Are you?

I am, to a small degree.

Gravity acts straight down. Unless the weakened mass tips past the centre of gravity, due to the structural nature of buildings, the collapse will cascade as straight down as possible, with upper collapsed floors settling on lower ones like vertical dominos, crushing the supports.

Tipping over a building would be about attacking the foundation in some asymetric manner.


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#66 2007-10-23 4:26 pm

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This is an awesome site with a great deal of interesting and factual information.  Unless you have a tinfoil hat... and then its just a big schill for the government, and evil, because it says there was no conspiracy.


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#67 2007-10-23 4:31 pm

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Re: Bill Maher Vs. 9/11 Truth Trolls

resedit wrote:

I think WTC 7 was intentionally brought down.
I don't think it had a fuel source for the kind of fire to take it down, like the bigger buildings had (jet fuel) - and it went down too well IMHO.

I think there was something in that building that they did not want the general public to know about, and I think demolition charges were in the building in case they were ever needed - kind of like how some spies carry a suicide pill.

But I only tentatively think that - I haven't fully investigated it myself - and I'm certainly very open to the idea that it was not intentionally brought down by us.

...and yet you still support all the decisions made in the wake of 9/11. Wow.


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#68 2007-10-23 4:34 pm

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Re: Bill Maher Vs. 9/11 Truth Trolls

Ribtorus wrote:

resedit wrote:

Aqua OS X wrote:


nuff said

Are you?

I am, to a small degree.

Gravity acts straight down. Unless the weakened mass tips past the centre of gravity, due to the structural nature of buildings, the collapse will cascade as straight down as possible, with upper collapsed floors settling on lower ones like vertical dominos, crushing the supports.

Tipping over a building would be about attacking the foundation in some asymetric manner.

Ribs, don't be so modest.

For the record, Ribtorus, I suspect, knows more about explosives and demolition than anyone else in MiniThink, by a wide margin.


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#69 2007-10-23 4:34 pm

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Re: Bill Maher Vs. 9/11 Truth Trolls

Why wow?
And what decisions are you talking about? There were lots of decisions made in the wake of 9/11.


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#70 2007-10-23 10:45 pm

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Re: Bill Maher Vs. 9/11 Truth Trolls

The information in WTC 7 that they were so desperate to hide detailed the real reason we invaded Iraq!


Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.

Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.

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#71 2007-10-23 11:00 pm

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craziness

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#72 2007-10-23 11:07 pm

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Re: Bill Maher Vs. 9/11 Truth Trolls

user wrote:

The information in WTC 7 that they were so desperate to hide detailed the real reason we invaded Iraq!

Yeah - well, at least that crazy theory of mine doesn't hurt anyone wink


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#73 2007-10-23 11:19 pm

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Re: Bill Maher Vs. 9/11 Truth Trolls

If it makes you happy, you are welcome to believe your conspiracy theory.

Rib is a military engineer, which means he has more than a passing chance of having some training in demolitions.


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#74 2007-10-23 11:37 pm

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#75 2007-10-24 11:42 am

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i think it's awesome he booted the ass hats from his show.  yes, it's free speech - but if you have created your own forum for speaking (tv show, in this case) you also have the right to disallow the participants for being disruptive.


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