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#1 2007-11-18 4:51 pm

frankly
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Bring Dock hierarchical menus back to Leopard

I know that a lot of you are not happy about the missing hierarchical Dock folders in Leopard. I saw this and thought it might interest you. Note that it is still in Beta:

http://www.brockerhoff.net/quay/

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#2 2007-11-18 5:42 pm

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Re: Bring Dock hierarchical menus back to Leopard

Cool idea. I may give it a try, once I can figure out the wake from sleep issues I'm having with Leopard.

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#3 2007-11-18 6:26 pm

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Re: Bring Dock hierarchical menus back to Leopard

$10? It's worth it.


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#4 2007-11-18 7:10 pm

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Re: Bring Dock hierarchical menus back to Leopard

Nice concept. They need to implement some sort of caching so there isnt the delay every time you want to see the contents of a folder with many items.


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#5 2007-11-18 7:32 pm

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Re: Bring Dock hierarchical menus back to Leopard

Ugh, thank god.

That said, it's a bit slow and I still hope Apple will add "view as menu" to stacks.

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#6 2007-11-18 7:42 pm

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Re: Bring Dock hierarchical menus back to Leopard

I'll third the slowness.  Getting folders into the dock is a little awkward, but once there, it seems to work as expected.  Notwithstanding, it's a great stopgap measure, and should Apple stubbornly decide not to fix the f****g dock (ftfd, lol) it may prove indispensable.  This dude's sitting on a gold mine.


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#7 2007-11-18 9:59 pm

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Re: Bring Dock hierarchical menus back to Leopard

There's also OldFolder, which is free, but only serves as a proxy for one folder per instance of the application.

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#8 2007-11-18 10:06 pm

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Re: Bring Dock hierarchical menus back to Leopard

ephemeron wrote:

There's also OldFolder, which is free, but only serves as a proxy for one folder per instance of the application.

Interesting. So does that function as an application and sit in the left side of the Dock?

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#9 2007-11-18 10:18 pm

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Re: Bring Dock hierarchical menus back to Leopard

I think I like Old Folder better. It lacks icons, which sucks, it functions more like the old dock folders and it's much faster then Quay. And it's free.

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#10 2007-11-19 5:48 pm

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Re: Bring Dock hierarchical menus back to Leopard

You can also try XMenu http://www.devon-technologies.com/produ … index.html   
It stays in the top right corner, and isn't as convenient, but does the job passably well.

Jyri

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#11 2007-11-19 5:55 pm

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Re: Bring Dock hierarchical menus back to Leopard

frankly wrote:

So does that function as an application and sit in the left side of the Dock?

Yep.

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#12 2007-11-19 8:40 pm

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Re: Bring Dock hierarchical menus back to Leopard

I'm leaning towards Old Folder myself.


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#13 2007-11-19 10:36 pm

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Re: Bring Dock hierarchical menus back to Leopard

Hmm. Nice idea. Problems though.

I tried Quay first. It looked nicer. But I have my Dock on the bottom right, but the menu would pop up... on the left. No where near the Dock at all.

Then I tried OldFolder. Not as nice looking. No icons. But it's on the left side of the Dock. Not where I want it.

I'd like to see Quay advance. Fix the location bug and hey, one thing I would probably pay the $10 for is if it could have DragThing style previews in a menu like.. DragThing does.

http://www.jasoco.net/data/files/images/temp/DragThing%20Preview%20Menus.jpg

Otherwise I'd rather just keep most of my folders in DragThing.


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#14 2007-11-21 12:22 am

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Re: Bring Dock hierarchical menus back to Leopard

So wait.  The guy puts up a beta, but cripples it by only allowing one folder, and no way to register it?  And for some stupid reason makes left-clicking bring up the hierarchical menu?

Plus he's charging for something that, in a week's time, someone else will figure out how to do better and free?

I'll pass.


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#15 2007-11-21 1:12 am

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Re: Bring Dock hierarchical menus back to Leopard

I think left-click should be the one to bring up the hierarchical menu. I always thought that would make more sense, since it's probably the more-common use.

But yeah, I thought it was pretty dumb to cripple it and not having a way to register it.


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#16 2007-11-21 11:22 am

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Re: Bring Dock hierarchical menus back to Leopard

matt wrote:

I think left-click should be the one to bring up the hierarchical menu. I always thought that would make more sense, since it's probably the more-common use.

But yeah, I thought it was pretty dumb to cripple it and not having a way to register it.

Actually, I think right click makes more sense.  Right click almost always brings up a menu, so right clicking something in the Dock should do the same.  Left click almost always highlights or opens something, so it should do the same in the Dock.


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#17 2007-11-21 12:27 pm

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Re: Bring Dock hierarchical menus back to Leopard

lord funk wrote:

matt wrote:

I think left-click should be the one to bring up the hierarchical menu. I always thought that would make more sense, since it's probably the more-common use.

But yeah, I thought it was pretty dumb to cripple it and not having a way to register it.

Actually, I think right click makes more sense.  Right click almost always brings up a menu, so right clicking something in the Dock should do the same.  Left click almost always highlights or opens something, so it should do the same in the Dock.

I agree with that assessment.


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