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#1 2007-11-19 11:23 pm
- John Lockard
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An Obama Nation
I've been looking at the polls in Iowa (2008 Polling Data) and it looks like he just may win it.
Heck, he just may even become president.
One guy in the liberal media has seen the future, if this comes to be.
Channeling Dick by Thomas L. Friedman
I have no idea who is going to win the Democratic presidential nomination, but lately I’ve been wondering whether, if it is Barack Obama, he might want to consider keeping Dick Cheney on as his vice president.
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And that brings me back to the Obama-Cheney ticket: When it comes to how best to deal with Iran, each has half a policy — but if you actually put them together, they’d add up to an ideal U.S. strategy for Iran. Dare I say, they complete each other.
Vice President Cheney is the hawk-eating hawk, who regularly swoops down and declares that the U.S. will not permit Iran to develop a nuclear weapon. Trust me, the Iranians take his threats seriously. But Mr. Cheney’s Dr. Strangelove imitation is totally wasted with President Bush and Secretary of State Condi Rice. Because the president and secretary of state have never been able to make up their minds as to what U.S. policy toward Iran should be — to bring about regime change or a change of behavior — it’s impossible to have any effective diplomacy.
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#2 2007-11-19 11:48 pm
- Hank Rearden
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Re: An Obama Nation
Of all the idiots running for president, Obama is the least idiotic... from what I can tell.
But, I thought that of Dubya in 2000, too. So, what do I know.
The gross heathenism of civilization has generally destroyed nature, and poetry, and all that is spiritual. -John Muir-
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#3 2007-11-19 11:48 pm
- Robert B.
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Re: An Obama Nation
Screw Iowa.
"Evil will always triumph because Good is dumb."
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#4 2007-11-20 12:07 am
- [MA] Flying_Meat
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Re: An Obama Nation
Hank Rearden wrote:
Of all the idiots running for president, Obama is the least idiotic... from what I can tell.
But, I thought that of Dubya in 2000, too. So, what do I know.
seriously? 
...and watch out for the flying meat!
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#5 2007-11-20 12:15 am
- JakeTheTall
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Re: An Obama Nation
Friedman jumped the shark the 2nd or 3rd time he invoked the Friedman unit when talking about Iraq.
Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim. Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet." They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.
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#6 2007-11-20 12:19 am
Re: An Obama Nation
Hank Rearden wrote:
Of all the idiots running for president, Obama is the least idiotic... from what I can tell.
But, I thought that of Dubya in 2000, too. So, what do I know.
He's very charismatic - and while I disagree with his politics, a charismatic leader goes a long way in many respects. I also think he may be one of the more honest candidates - but it is possible that thought is influenced by his charisma.
If I had to pick a dem, it would be Joe.
He's not running - of those dems that are, I like Obama the best.
In her right hand Jenny held the Bible of her mother
Jenny had a pistol in the other
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#7 2007-11-20 12:23 am
- [MA] Flying_Meat
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Re: An Obama Nation
a charismatic leader was at jonestown, no?
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#8 2007-11-20 12:29 am
- Hank Rearden
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Re: An Obama Nation
[MA] Flying_Meat wrote:
Hank Rearden wrote:
Of all the idiots running for president, Obama is the least idiotic... from what I can tell.
But, I thought that of Dubya in 2000, too. So, what do I know.seriously?
Well, who the heck else was there?
Gore? He's still a bore, and pompous to boot.
McCain? He was an old codger back then too.
I can't even remember anyone else.
Well, I assume Sharpton was in the early race (because he usually was back then), but that's not saying much either.
But, who else was there? No one of any note.
The gross heathenism of civilization has generally destroyed nature, and poetry, and all that is spiritual. -John Muir-
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#9 2007-11-20 12:31 am
- Hank Rearden
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Re: An Obama Nation
resedit wrote:
If I had to pick a dem, it would be Joe.
Well, of course. Liebermann's a Republican. He just pretends otherwise.
The gross heathenism of civilization has generally destroyed nature, and poetry, and all that is spiritual. -John Muir-
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#10 2007-11-20 12:33 am
- [MA] Flying_Meat
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Re: An Obama Nation
knowing what you know about the man's history, i just can't understand how you would have thought he was the best man for the job. a paperclip would have been a better choice.
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#11 2007-11-20 12:42 am
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#12 2007-11-20 1:09 am
- bratboy
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Re: An Obama Nation
I don't understand the link in the first post.....
"One thing we've learned is there's a difference between being disappointed and having madmen in authority."
--Paul Krugman
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#13 2007-11-20 3:11 am
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Re: An Obama Nation
resedit wrote:
Hank Rearden wrote:
Of all the idiots running for president, Obama is the least idiotic... from what I can tell.
But, I thought that of Dubya in 2000, too. So, what do I know.I had to pick a dem, it would be Joe.
He's an independent now.
George Bush: "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."
George Bush: "One of the hardest parts of my job is to try to connect Iraq to the war on terror."
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#14 2007-11-20 6:04 am
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Re: An Obama Nation
It seems based on total delegates that Florida is the important first one this time.
Do your part to combat global warming.
Eat a cow.
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#15 2007-11-20 6:23 am
- ShnickyShnack
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Re: An Obama Nation
Hank Rearden wrote:
[MA] Flying_Meat wrote:
Hank Rearden wrote:
Of all the idiots running for president, Obama is the least idiotic... from what I can tell.
But, I thought that of Dubya in 2000, too. So, what do I know.seriously?
Well, who the heck else was there?
Gore? He's still a bore, and pompous to boot.
McCain? He was an old codger back then too.
I can't even remember anyone else.
Well, I assume Sharpton was in the early race (because he usually was back then), but that's not saying much either.
But, who else was there? No one of any note.
How could you think Bush was smart when he couldn't string five words together? And what does it matter if a president is pompous, boring or a codger? Shouldn't he key question be whether he/she can do the job?
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#16 2007-11-20 6:29 am
Re: An Obama Nation
Jaligard wrote:
resedit wrote:
Hank Rearden wrote:
Of all the idiots running for president, Obama is the least idiotic... from what I can tell.
But, I thought that of Dubya in 2000, too. So, what do I know.I had to pick a dem, it would be Joe.
He's an independent now.
An independent who happens to vote with the dems more often than most dems do on virtually every issue except Iraq.
In her right hand Jenny held the Bible of her mother
Jenny had a pistol in the other
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#17 2007-11-20 8:40 am
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Re: An Obama Nation
resedit wrote:
Jaligard wrote:
resedit wrote:
I had to pick a dem, it would be Joe.He's an independent now.
An independent who happens to vote with the dems more often than most dems do on virtually every issue except Iraq.
Meh. Even on non-Iraq issues he's pretty moderate.
Remember that he got elected by running to the right of the last remaining liberal Republicans to grace the Senate, Lowell Weicker. Hell, he was even endorsed by William F Buckley.
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#18 2007-11-20 8:40 am
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Re: An Obama Nation
Personally I'm not confident either Hillary or Obama can win the whole enchilada.
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#19 2007-11-20 8:45 am
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Re: An Obama Nation
ShnickyShnack wrote:
Personally I'm not confident either Hillary or Obama can win the whole enchilada.
I have a feeling Obama would get crushed, while Hillary would at least keep it competitive.
I'm hoping the Republicans nominate Giuliani. The Republican base doesn't seem to mind the creepiness and corruption, but he'll turn off a large segment of the public.
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#20 2007-11-20 8:46 am
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The major candidates for both Republicans and Democrats are jokes, in my opinion. They've all taken sooo much money from special interest groups, they'll have plenty of favors to repay once in office.
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#21 2007-11-20 9:26 am
- ShnickyShnack
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Re: An Obama Nation
after-life wrote:
ShnickyShnack wrote:
Personally I'm not confident either Hillary or Obama can win the whole enchilada.
I have a feeling Obama would get crushed, while Hillary would at least keep it competitive.
I'm hoping the Republicans nominate Giuliani. The Republican base doesn't seem to mind the creepiness and corruption, but he'll turn off a large segment of the public.
People love to hate Hillary. She's in for a hell of a rough ride if she gets the nomination.
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#22 2007-11-20 9:36 am
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Re: An Obama Nation
JakeTheTall wrote:
Friedman jumped the shark the 2nd or 3rd time he invoked the Friedman unit when talking about Iraq.
Seriously. And he ain't no liberal. (And I thought whatever paper he was at [the NYT?] canned him.)
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#23 2007-11-20 9:53 am
- JakeTheTall
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Re: An Obama Nation
Mustapha Mond wrote:
JakeTheTall wrote:
Friedman jumped the shark the 2nd or 3rd time he invoked the Friedman unit when talking about Iraq.
Seriously. And he ain't no liberal. (And I thought whatever paper he was at [the NYT?] canned him.)
I was under the impression that satire was clearly humorous. There's no way anyone would seriously pair a Democrat with Vice President Cheney.
Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim. Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet." They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.
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#24 2007-11-20 10:17 am
- ShnickyShnack
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Re: An Obama Nation
JakeTheTall wrote:
Mustapha Mond wrote:
JakeTheTall wrote:
Friedman jumped the shark the 2nd or 3rd time he invoked the Friedman unit when talking about Iraq.
Seriously. And he ain't no liberal. (And I thought whatever paper he was at [the NYT?] canned him.)
I was under the impression that satire was clearly humorous. There's no way anyone would seriously pair a Democrat with Vice President Cheney.
Did you just use the word "humour" in connection with Thomas Friedman? I know it seems impossible, but that's kind of how your post described it.
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#25 2007-11-20 10:34 am
- JakeTheTall
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Re: An Obama Nation
ShnickyShnack wrote:
JakeTheTall wrote:
Mustapha Mond wrote:
Seriously. And he ain't no liberal. (And I thought whatever paper he was at [the NYT?] canned him.)I was under the impression that satire was clearly humorous. There's no way anyone would seriously pair a Democrat with Vice President Cheney.
Did you just use the word "humour" in connection with Thomas Friedman? I know it seems impossible, but that's kind of how your post described it.
I'm just wondering why the NYTimes ran that bit....I mean, he's so far past the Baghdad Bob point of delusion. I guess its just the MSM's liberal bias trying to make conservative cheerleaders look like even greater fools.
I wonder if Krauthammer will feel that he has to top this. Could be fun.
Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim. Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet." They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.
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