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This has been proposed many times.

Kev!

bratboy wrote:

This has been proposed many times.

I assume so but I am interested in what the argument against this is.

And I would like for some gay person to tell me why the smurf they would want to adopt such a smurfed up institution.

For the benefits of legal marriage, I would imagine....or because they believe they deserve equal treatment under the law.

bratboy wrote:

For the benefits of legal marriage, I would imagine....or because they believe they deserve equal treatment under the law.

Or because they have the capability to love someone more than they love themselves and want to be in a committed relationship.

Farmerkev wrote:

bratboy wrote:

For the benefits of legal marriage, I would imagine....or because they believe they deserve equal treatment under the law.

Or because they have the capability to love someone more than they love themselves and want to be in a committed relationship.

Perhaps they feel they're entitled to experience the joy of divorce?

Why the hell would anyone want to ban legal marriage? If people want to go that route let them.

In terms of gay marriage I find it absurd to propose legal backflips to make marriage not marriage in order to include more people, when it's just so much simpler to include more people.

Same-sex marriage is legal here in Canada -- I already know several such married couples, some with kids -- and the sky hasn't fallen. I understand why some people are uncomfortable with homosexuality, but for Chrissakes accept that  they are here and they aren't going away however much you bitch and moan. Unclench the sphincter already.

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Unclench the sphincter already.

Hey I am cool with gay marriage... just not that cool. Get off my back, schnicky.

I now know. It is about the submission of the woman to the man. The bible readings in the ceremony were blatantly sexist and the sermon was even more so. The preacher was saying that the bride's role should from now on be to please her husband and for her husband to provide for her and whatnot. Totally backwards bullsmurf.

A husband and wife choose the pastor that marries them and they choose what kind of ceremony they want and what is going to be said etc.

The two people you saw get married chose that kind of a ceremony. They were not obligated to.

You want to take a voluntary ceremony that two people chose to have and use it to define all marriage?

Good luck with the science career.

soulcrusher wrote:

resedit wrote:

The two people you saw get married chose that kind of a ceremony. They were not obligated to.

Right, you think the way they were brought up and brainwashed did not have anything to do with this?

It doesn't matter.
They are consenting adults.
The fact that you assume someone must be brainwashed to choose a lifestyle and religious philosophy you do not prescribe to is very telling of your critical thinking skills.

Furthermore, all that love, honor, obey crap - that's strictly religious and means squat as far as the legal aspect of marriage goes.

While I think the whole marriage thing is gross, I dont think it should be banned, marriage rituals are pretty important around the world, even if they're universally pretty sexist/stupid. No way it would fly anyway.

And I as well have never understood why gays would want to be married. Civil unions, sure, of course. But the Church has led discrimination against gays for thousands of years, and continues to do so. Why a homosexual person would want to have anything to do with such an institution is beyond me. Its like a black woman wanting to be a neo-nazi, I dont get it.

And Its pretty damn unlikely I'll ever get married. Even if I found a girl who wanted to, she'd have to convince me so damn hard to even set foot in a church, I'd have to be pretty in love/desperate/crazy to go through with that. My parents are common law, no ceremony, no rings, no name change. Sounds good to me.

iThinkIam wrote:

Jdude wrote:

Farmerkev wrote:

Or because they have the capability to love someone more than they love themselves and want to be in a committed relationship.

I just got married to make it illegal for her to do the deed with anyone else.

Ah, so there it is.

The purpose of marriage is exclusive rights to another's body.  That actually makes sense in a very odd way.

That's just our running joke. Honestly, I don't even know what the law says in this area. I do know that she will be along shortly to stab me for not writing a 15 page post on our love, ruining the whole thread.