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#76 2008-01-13 5:08 pm

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Re: Macworld predictions: go on the record!

I've been very lucky. I just backup my Applications folder every time that i do an upgrade and move machines. The only Apps that I have issues with are PhotoShop, Lightwave and believe it or not, Adium. Everything else has always copied over fine. Unfortunately, Apple might believe that this is acceptable enough and expect the other apps to catch up.


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#77 2008-01-13 9:39 pm

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Re: Macworld predictions: go on the record!

That's not that an unrealistic expectation.  The majority of Mac apps are portable, in stark contrast to Windows.  Some potentially non-portable apps (I call them pseudo portable) will automatically install the necessary support files if they are not found at launch.  Adobe might be able to do something like this in the future.

But anyway, even without application syncing, you should be able to mount the MacBook nano's hard drive by connecting it to the host machine.  Then just install the app normally from the host machine.

I think a lot of people would love to have something more substantial than a PDA (or iPhone, if you will), but not a full-fledged laptop.  This fills that need, and if it's cheap enough, it'll probably even make some more switchers.


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#78 2008-01-13 10:58 pm

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Re: Macworld predictions: go on the record!

Mr. T wrote:

I think a lot of people would love to have something more substantial than a PDA (or iPhone, if you will), but not a full-fledged laptop.  This fills that need, and if it's cheap enough, it'll probably even make some more switchers.

Very much so. I was saying over here that a thin laptop might have an e-paper keyboard/trackpad. Essentially the entire surface should be wafer thin and entirely non-mechanical. Certainly shaves 5mm off the thickness of the laptop. Also wouldn't affect battery time at all. Pain in the arse to type on, but on such a small machine, you wouldn't normally be doing much typing.


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#79 2008-01-13 11:20 pm

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Re: Macworld predictions: go on the record!

reece_james wrote:

Mr. T wrote:

I think a lot of people would love to have something more substantial than a PDA (or iPhone, if you will), but not a full-fledged laptop.  This fills that need, and if it's cheap enough, it'll probably even make some more switchers.

Very much so. I was saying over here that a thin laptop might have an e-paper keyboard/trackpad. Essentially the entire surface should be wafer thin and entirely non-mechanical. Certainly shaves 5mm off the thickness of the laptop. Also wouldn't affect battery time at all. Pain in the arse to type on, but on such a small machine, you wouldn't normally be doing much typing.

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#80 2008-01-13 11:49 pm

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Re: Macworld predictions: go on the record!

Well, if we assume the screen is of similar construction tolerances as the iPod Touch, the screen would be very thin. Assume a paper thin keyboard solution and assume that the thickest component is the HD, the entire thing would be around 10-12mm, 1/2" thick at the very worst.

If Apple releases an ultra small Mac, it will upstage everything on the market. I would be expecting the the ethernet port to be an adaptor or missing entirely as it is probably too large for the lower case. I would also be expecting a dock of some description. I doubt there will be anything more than a USB port, headphone jack, Mini DVI and mag safe on the case without an adaptor.


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#81 2008-01-14 12:22 am

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Re: Macworld predictions: go on the record!

reece_james wrote:

Well, if we assume the screen is of similar construction tolerances as the iPod Touch, the screen would be very thin. Assume a paper thin keyboard solution and assume that the thickest component is the HD, the entire thing would be around 10-12mm, 1/2" thick at the very worst.

If Apple releases an ultra small Mac, it will upstage everything on the market. I would be expecting the the ethernet port to be an adaptor or missing entirely as it is probably too large for the lower case. I would also be expecting a dock of some description. I doubt there will be anything more than a USB port, headphone jack, Mini DVI and mag safe on the case without an adaptor.

the ethernet port will fold.


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#82 2008-01-14 12:39 am

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Re: Macworld predictions: go on the record!

FutureDreamz wrote:

the ethernet port will fold.

As in bow to pressure? Or the patent a while ago when showed the ports hinging out the bottom.


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#83 2008-01-14 1:44 am

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Re: Macworld predictions: go on the record!

reece_james wrote:

FutureDreamz wrote:

the ethernet port will fold.

As in bow to pressure? Or the patent a while ago when showed the ports hinging out the bottom.

the patent


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#84 2008-01-14 4:15 am

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Re: Macworld predictions: go on the record!

I've seen the patent for folding ports they spring out and apart and when pushed in squeeze into the case

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#85 2008-01-14 5:44 am

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Re: Macworld predictions: go on the record!

Could Apple get away with a computer that doesn't have any ports? (Maybe bar a dock connector of some description) If you drop the ports, if you drop the optical drive, if you use an entirely flat keyboard. You could get the computer just over the thickness of a 2.5" HD. The ports and the optical drive are the two items that prevent a very thin computer from being produced.

Presume Apple dropped all the ports off the case or provided an adaptor that stuck in the side to provide your normal ports. All you have is wireless, wireless internet and wireless peripheral support on the run. Not all bad.

Now Steve always likes to take everything one step too far. Induction charging has been around for a while. Magsafe is great. What if you used the same principal of the Magsafe adaptor and had a 'charging pad' that is just held on the bottom of the laptop from magnets internal. No physical connectors, no blemishes on the case. Nothing.

drool


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#86 2008-01-14 8:57 am

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Re: Macworld predictions: go on the record!

reece_james wrote:

The ports and the optical drive are the two items that prevent a very thin computer from being produced.

Don't forget about the battery and a cooling mechanism for the CPU, Northbridge, GPU etcetera.  Are the new 45nm processors really cool enough to allow a super skinny machine? I'm sure the ultra low wattage slow-pokes can do it but I want some power in my portable, and some decent battery life even if it is a little bit chubbier.
I'm all for light weight tiny machines as I do a ton of back-country photography and would love a machine small enough to bring with me.

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#87 2008-01-14 11:57 am

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Re: Macworld predictions: go on the record!

My prediction:  Nothing exciting and everyone here gets angry.  Maybe a larger capacity iPhone, but nothing substantial.

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#88 2008-01-14 12:43 pm

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Re: Macworld predictions: go on the record!

I feel like this year there are more predictions circulating than usual.  I guess that's good, as it seems like interest in Apple is growing, which should mean more customers, high marketshare percentages, etc.

Things that I think are likey to actually show up are:

-OSX 10.5.2
-iPhone 1.1.3 software
-iTunes 7.6 with Movie Rentals
-Spec-bumped laptops

Things I'm putting on my 'maybe' list:

-Announcement of iPhone gen 2, with 3G and larger flash capacity, for sale sometime in the first 6 months of this year.
-Some type of AppleTV upgrade
-New Cinema Displays

My most likely contender for the "big item":

-The ultraportable, and I think it's more likely to be a laptop than a tablet. (Also file this under the "likey" category.)

Things I really have no idea about, and wouldn't be surprised to see or not see:

-New case designs across the whole laptop line
-Some other utterly amazing thing that I've never even thought about but seems like I can't live without it when Steve talks about it.


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#89 2008-01-14 2:35 pm

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Re: Macworld predictions: go on the record!

It can't be as bad as last year's which was basically a repeat of the one before (no wait that was the other show maybe, either way...)


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#90 2008-01-14 2:36 pm

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Re: Macworld predictions: go on the record!

I think we'll see:

- iTunes HD, maybe rentals too
- New cinema displays with a built-in webcam
- More information about a 3G iPhone
- The evolution of the 12" Powerbook that is missing from the notebook line.
- Higher capacity iPod Touch


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#91 2008-01-14 2:42 pm

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Re: Macworld predictions: go on the record!

Maybe Wifi syncing on the iPhone/iPod Touch?

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#92 2008-01-14 2:50 pm

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Re: Macworld predictions: go on the record!

We better see an Airport Express that is "N" capable. That is taking way too long!


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#93 2008-01-14 3:22 pm

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Re: Macworld predictions: go on the record!

Oh, I have another prediction: Diskwarrior will yet to be updated for full compatibility with Leopard for another two months or so! It's only been 2 1/2 months since they said there would be a free update coming "soon" for current DW 4 owners. What is their definition of soon anyway?


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#94 2008-01-14 4:42 pm

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Re: Macworld predictions: go on the record!

Onanum wrote:

reece_james wrote:

The ports and the optical drive are the two items that prevent a very thin computer from being produced.

Don't forget about the battery and a cooling mechanism for the CPU, Northbridge, GPU etcetera.  Are the new 45nm processors really cool enough to allow a super skinny machine? I'm sure the ultra low wattage slow-pokes can do it but I want some power in my portable, and some decent battery life even if it is a little bit chubbier.
I'm all for light weight tiny machines as I do a ton of back-country photography and would love a machine small enough to bring with me.

Well look at the iPod Touch as an example. Yes it's ARM not Intel, but in that tiny case, there is a LCD, backlighting and glass plate.

I'd be expecting it to be just as fast a my CD MacBook. No real reason for it not to be, unless they can't cram it into a Jobs Approved Design™.


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#95 2008-01-14 6:46 pm

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Re: Macworld predictions: go on the record!

If and ARM processor can keep up with a Core 2 Duo I'll eat my hat, ARM processors are great for low power consumption applications like iPods and Nintendo DS' but they don't have the horsepower to run an OS and applications like an Intel platform can.

Intel does have something called Menlow that could fit the bill, think of it as a tiny stripped down Core 2 processor with low power and cooling needs.  You can read more about it at AnandTech here.
Menlow appears to be available and could conceivably pull off the form factor in question and has the necessary architecture and instruction sets (SSE2, SSE3) to run OS X.  We'll have to see what Steve has to show us tomorrow.

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#96 2008-01-14 7:01 pm

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Re: Macworld predictions: go on the record!

Hahah...the "Trademark" symbol by the Jobs Approved Design got me to chuckle. 

I would hope that the new ultraportable would at least keep up with the MB.  Granted, it's super portable, but it has to be able to keep up with Apple's "entry-level" notebook in order to be successful...

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#97 2008-01-14 7:17 pm

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Re: Macworld predictions: go on the record!

pkmgarf wrote:

Hahah...the "Trademark" symbol by the Jobs Approved Design got me to chuckle. 

I would hope that the new ultraportable would at least keep up with the MB.  Granted, it's super portable, but it has to be able to keep up with Apple's "entry-level" notebook in order to be successful...

Yeah, just to be able to run Leopard well the processor needs to be pretty decent.


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#98 2008-01-14 7:52 pm

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Re: Macworld predictions: go on the record!

Onanum wrote:

If and ARM processor can keep up with a Core 2 Duo I'll eat my hat, ARM processors are great for low power consumption applications like iPods and Nintendo DS' but they don't have the horsepower to run an OS and applications like an Intel platform can.

Yes, they're low power, but they're just as hot and no smaller. They just use less power. We'll find out tomorrow.


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#99 2008-01-15 12:22 am

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Re: Macworld predictions: go on the record!

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#100 2008-01-15 1:48 am

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Re: Macworld predictions: go on the record!

No 3G iPhone.


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