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#26 2008-01-06 10:47 pm

Tallgeese
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Re: Reason #42345988 why I don't like christians

Someone who was 18 in 1945 would be 80 now. That percentage of the German population would be the largest number of people who remotely had something to do with the Nazis.


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#27 2008-01-06 10:51 pm

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Re: Reason #42345988 why I don't like christians

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Huh?

Perfectly relevant, hating a 16 year old German today because of the Holocaust is indeed bigotry, unless they are somehow saying the young German has benefited from the absence of Jews due to the Holocaust, in which case they are just stupid as hell.


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#28 2008-01-06 10:52 pm

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Re: Reason #42345988 why I don't like christians

That makes perfect, logical, rational sense.

But it's not easy to draw such fine distinctions when one's people were slaughtered.


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#29 2008-01-06 10:52 pm

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Re: Reason #42345988 why I don't like christians

Also, I support this tangent from SC's original topic.

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#30 2008-01-06 10:53 pm

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Re: Reason #42345988 why I don't like christians

Let me be clear, I'm not justifying "hatred" or anything of the sort. I'm simply saying that the dislike and unease some Jews feel for Germans is entirely understandable.

Have fun trying to convince me otherwise.


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#31 2008-01-06 11:04 pm

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Re: Reason #42345988 why I don't like christians

Hey, at least you aren't a Gentile German trying to claim the Jews as your people.

Also, there's no point in trying to convince you of something you've already stated is illogical.

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#32 2008-01-06 11:20 pm

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Re: Reason #42345988 why I don't like christians

I love Christians for inspiring some of my favorite horror movies.


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#33 2008-01-07 12:04 am

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Re: Reason #42345988 why I don't like christians

Tallgeese wrote:

Hey, at least you aren't a Gentile German trying to claim the Jews as your people.

Also, there's no point in trying to convince you of something you've already stated is illogical.

Yes, the human heart is most inconvenient.


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#34 2008-01-07 12:19 am

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Re: Reason #42345988 why I don't like christians

soulcrusher wrote:

Even though I don't like religion in general the following issue is a particular one I have with christians.

If I cannot get people to understand my dislike towards christians reasonably then I resort to the following argument (almost guaranteed to work).

Why does soulcrusher dislike christians?

For the same reason that jews dislike nazis.

Christians came to my country, raped, tortured and killed my ancestors, established a a colony and exploited us for more than 300 years - all in the name of Jesus Christ.

Oh, but you may say, "how come most of you guys do not have a problem with christians nowadays, as a matter of fact, most of you converted to christianity" - converted? willingly? no no, it is an easy choice when you have to pick between the sword and the bible.

So, not only did christians physically exploited us, but they also fed us this Jesus bullsmurf to keep us on our knees and under their control. What better tool for control than having the colonized worship the god of the colonizer?

This history of both psychological and physical abuse is enough for me to dislike christians.

So, if you question my dislike for religion, I would like to remind you that you are being culturally insensitive and fit the profile of someone that would commit a hate crime.

Okay, but there's no reason not to have a dedicated period of the year for spending time with friends and family.

I'm jewish and I celebrate a secular christmas.

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#35 2008-01-07 12:37 am

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Re: Reason #42345988 why I don't like christians

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Tallgeese wrote:

Hey, at least you aren't a Gentile German trying to claim the Jews as your people.

Also, there's no point in trying to convince you of something you've already stated is illogical.

Yes, the human heart is most inconvenient.

Now you're starting to sound proud that you hold opinions that you know are illogical.


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#36 2008-01-07 12:47 am

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Re: Reason #42345988 why I don't like christians

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Let me be clear, I'm not justifying "hatred" or anything of the sort. I'm simply saying that the dislike and unease some Jews feel for Germans is entirely understandable.

Have fun trying to convince me otherwise.

Ignore them dear.  I feel the same way about Republicans for committing genocide in the 80's against homosexuals.

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#37 2008-01-07 12:57 am

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Re: Reason #42345988 why I don't like christians

Tallgeese wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Tallgeese wrote:

Hey, at least you aren't a Gentile German trying to claim the Jews as your people.

Also, there's no point in trying to convince you of something you've already stated is illogical.

Yes, the human heart is most inconvenient.

Now you're starting to sound proud that you hold opinions that you know are illogical.

Shnick was stating that he has relatives who hold that view. I do too. I raised the same concerns to them about what reason there is to still feel uneasy around the germans when they were concerned that I was going there for the summer.


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#38 2008-01-07 6:39 am

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Re: Reason #42345988 why I don't like christians

bedstuy wrote:

Ignore them dear.  I feel the same way about Republicans for committing genocide in the 80's against homosexuals.

They didn't do a very good job, you're still here.


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#39 2008-01-07 7:12 am

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Re: Reason #42345988 why I don't like christians

Tallgeese wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Tallgeese wrote:

Hey, at least you aren't a Gentile German trying to claim the Jews as your people.

Also, there's no point in trying to convince you of something you've already stated is illogical.

Yes, the human heart is most inconvenient.

Now you're starting to sound proud that you hold opinions that you know are illogical.

Actually you're sounding defensive for not seeing the obvious.


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#40 2008-01-07 7:24 am

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Re: Reason #42345988 why I don't like christians

Yeah, I had no doubt where this was headed.


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