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I hate a lot of whites and I hate a lot of blacks
I hate poopin' in public places but we all hate that
I hate lesbian feminists 'cause they're all so damn ugly
I hate "Spin" magazine 'cause they never ever plug me
And I hate Regis and I hate Kathie Lee
I hate every single movie by that midget Spike Lee
I hate people that think that I care what they think
I hate people that think that their ass don't stink
I hate Jon Bon Jovi but I hate his music more
I hate killin' people 'cause I hate to keep score
I hate you but you hate yourself too
I hate to be honest but I'd hate to be you

bratboy wrote:

Check your grammar sites guys, they all say the same thing:

In the United States, periods and commas go inside quotation marks regardless of logic.

Link.

"Regardless of logic" is correct.

I've never been corrected by any English professor, regardless of their pedantry, for placing periods outside of quotation marks when appropriate.

bratboy wrote:

matt wrote:

bratboy wrote:

What is the "stereotype," in your opinion?  Don't we get enough of this "stereotype" nonsense from society at large without contributing to it ourselves?

I don't think he was referring to you.

Thanks matt, neither do I.  That doesn't change my opinion on the subject, however.

I was attempting to make a certain point that I'm sure you got without violating the DBAJ rule.

But, if you must have an answer, take the two Queer as Folk characters Emmett Honeycutt and Brian Kinney, and combine them.  That's the stupid stereotype.

You don't really need to be.

matt wrote:

I think it would be difficult to find instances of non-sentence quotes at the end of a sentence in print.

Perhaps, though it would be even more difficult to find instances of a period being placed outside of quotation marks.



I'm not positive because I don't have the guide in front of me, but I believe in legal writing (at least in court docs) you would place the period (that wasn't actually part of the quote) inside the quotation marks, but also enclosed by brackets:

"Not the end of the sentence[.]"

Matt, you did your weird 'delete and repost' thing.  Now I'm quoting you before you even say what I'm quoting.

matt wrote:

And they were also written before the internet existed. And now that we communicate daily with the rest of the world and they have to communicate with us, we should all jettison the stupid grammar rules for the more sensible ones.

Well they may have initially been written prior to the internet, but they're still being constantly revised.

...and now both of your posts are gone!  Knock it off!



*edit*

OK fine it's back.

bratboy wrote:

Matt, you did your weird 'delete and repost' thing.  Now I'm quoting you before you even say what I'm quoting.

PunBB's edit indicator is also one of my pet peeves.

bratboy wrote:

matt wrote:

And they were also written before the internet existed. And now that we communicate daily with the rest of the world and they have to communicate with us, we should all jettison the stupid grammar rules for the more sensible ones.

Well they may have initially been written prior to the internet, but they're still being constantly revised.

I know, and I expect that in 20 years or so, the American way of quoting will be uncommon. It doesn't make any sense.

no he wasn't.
yes he was.
no he isn't.
yes he is.
no he is not.
your turn...

Mercury52 wrote:

I just hate people in general.  Spending a lot of time in NYC, that's not a good thing.

Maybe you should move.

Parents who:

change their baby in public.
just sit/stand there while their kid is behaving obnoxiously.
own those double or triple wide strollers. No wonder they need SUVs.
can't just sit the smurf down and watch their kids play a sport. They can't hear you so STFU!
are quick to criticize an event or organization but are not so quick to volunteer for one.
can't parent.

Turn signals have been mentioned.
Stopping in the middle of________. Done.
Fat people who whine about their weight. Esp. while they're stuffing their face with Ho-Hos.
Fat people with handicapped permits. I'm sorry your weight has destroyed your knees/hips/feet but you need the walk.
Handicapped parking in general.
Parking in front of stores for the 'quick run-in'.

LLEVIATHANN wrote:

Parents who:
change their baby in public.

Ug.  Aaron's aunt and uncle will change their twins right on the living room couch.  I'll be sitting at the table enjoying my Thanksgiving dinner, smell a nasty smell and look over and there they are- dirty diapers and naked butts squirming all over the furniture, right by everyone who is eating.  Why?!  Just why?!

Yeah, but don't change them right next to me while I'm trying to eat dinner.  Please?  And risk getting poop on your own couch and not someone else's.

I think that most people find changing tables are a waste of money.