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Tallgeese wrote:

http://www.samadamsisoverratedandoverpricedmacropretendingtobemicro.com

It's better than Bud, Coors, or Miller.  Give me that much.  Plus they have a million and one different varieties.

Daniel wrote:

Freezer mac wrote:

alcohol free going on 25 years now.

Recovering alcoholic?

Life sentence.

jkahless wrote:

iSeamas wrote:

jkahless wrote:

I'm surprised the US isn't first in consumption considering how weak it's beer is.

The typical Bud/Miller, etc isn't all that weak at all as far as alcohol content (for a pilsner Helles style).
It's main weakness is flavor.


As for strong beers, the US Micros out now have some of the strongest beers in the world -and the trend in the US micros is for very strong, extremely hoppy beers (Double IPAs, Barleywines, Imperial Stouts, etc)

I know all about it. It's just a national pasttime for Canadians to bash American beer, cause you know, American beer is the only drink that's stronger when you piss it out after.

I gotcha.

My "go to" beers in High School and for a while afterwards (mid-late '80s), were mostly Canadian varieties -usually Molson Canadian or Molson Golden.
They had a bit more flavor than the American "premiums", but NOT MUCH.

Not any stronger either -except for the fabled Molson Bradour -which were were often told stories about from older brothers who regaled us of it being 2 or 3 times stronger than our beer and that it was a capital offense to bring it to the US.
When I finally had some I found it to be not much better -and certainly no stronger -than an American Malt Liquor of the likes of Colt 45.


The stuff coming out of Unibroue (in Quebec) is fantastic. I haven't had a variety from them that isn't top-notch.

AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE

iSeamas wrote:

jkahless wrote:

iSeamas wrote:

The typical Bud/Miller, etc isn't all that weak at all as far as alcohol content (for a pilsner Helles style).
It's main weakness is flavor.


As for strong beers, the US Micros out now have some of the strongest beers in the world -and the trend in the US micros is for very strong, extremely hoppy beers (Double IPAs, Barleywines, Imperial Stouts, etc)

I know all about it. It's just a national pasttime for Canadians to bash American beer, cause you know, American beer is the only drink that's stronger when you piss it out after.

I gotcha.

My "go to" beers in High School and for a while afterwards (mid-late '80s), were mostly Canadian varieties -usually Molson Canadian or Molson Golden.
They had a bit more flavor than the American "premiums", but NOT MUCH.

Alas, that's true as well, but it does let me feel superior to Kokanee swilling Canadians as well as Bud swilling Americans!  Yay superiority go!

I can respect that.  (Believe it or not.)

(Just FYI, though, while it is true the majority of the alcohol is cooked away when used in cooking, depending on what you're making and how you're making it, it's not necessarily 100% gone.  But I still know what you're trying to say.)

Last edited by Daniel (2008-02-13 1:46 am)

Sorry you have self-control issues, but don't blame other things for your problem.

bratboy wrote:

Freezer mac wrote:

i can't hurt someone like that if i am in control of myself. i cannot be sure that i could control myself under the influence. i've seen too much evidence to the contrary.

"Evidence" in yourself?

I know people with drinking problems.  I know far more people who drink responsibly.  It isn't difficult.

you misunderstand.
alcohol can make some people violent. i have been on the receiving end of this.(a long time ago) i don't want to be one of those people. so i don't drink. the only way to know if it would make you violent is to try it, and i do not want to hurt anyone. literally.

i've seen people who, when sober are very nice, kind, and all that, but when drunk, they don't know the limits, and they hurt themselves and others. if you had my life experiences, i highly doubt that you would drink.

Last edited by Freezer mac (2008-02-14 12:57 am)

If you think alcohol makes people violent, try prohibition.


Alcohol helps violent people behave violently.
It doesn't cause in it self cause violence.
(neither does religion)

iSeamas wrote:

If you think alcohol makes people violent, try prohibition.


Alcohol helps violent people behave violently.
It doesn't cause in it self cause violence.
(neither does religion)

I'm not sure that is true - I've seen plenty of tough guys mellow out after a few beers, and I've seen nice guys with a drinking problem go the other way.

I think it really is a dependency issue. Maybe not all the time, but I suspect most mean drunks have an addiction.

Alcohol doesn't cause someone to become violent.  Alcohol can even help create a more relaxed atmosphere with your coworkers, or other people who you spend time with in an otherwise more strict relationship.

I just don't think it's smart to drink while stressed or mad or sad.  I think that's how habits are formed, and therefore such situations should be avoided.

justine wrote:

Alcohol CAN bring out all the worst qualities in a person. Things they would normally keep under control.

I guess it depends on the situation.  If you're in a situation where you might get into a fight, yes alcohol will bring out the worst in people...
It depends on the situation I guess.

I haven't seen it happen to people (while in Germany), but yeah, I guess it really can.