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#1 2008-04-20 1:29 pm

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so why did apple discontinue the isight?

a friend of mine just switched to a mini.  i converted him to mac

he has no mic & no cam.  it's brand new 1.83c2d. wot the *ucking hell???

and no *uck USB, do not recommend usb cam

that has got to be the craziest *hit ever.  like an audio pro or a gamer aint gonna have a camera for use on a mac pro.

and if the case is with built in isight for monitors, why waste dev time on a macbook air?  where are these monitors? i don't want one but that at least would be reasoning.

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#2 2008-04-20 2:22 pm

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Re: so why did apple discontinue the isight?

NSX wrote:

mood; steamed

I can see that. Did you expect it to come with an iSight? Did you miss the memo? "No USB" pretty much rules out any acceptable solution. Ain't nothing wrong with USB in this case. confused

But I agree. If they'd kept making the iSight I wouldn't have this useless little thing stuck in all my computers.

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#3 2008-04-20 2:37 pm

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Re: so why did apple discontinue the isight?

You want USB 2 big_smile

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#4 2008-04-20 2:41 pm

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Re: so why did apple discontinue the isight?

Sorry dude, it's a desktop, USB cameras are usually what you buy when you have  desktop computer. Moreover, USB 2 is more then enough bandwidth for a web cam. You don't need Firewire.

Tell him to buy that cheep'o Xbox Live camera that every Mac desktop user seem to be buying. It works w/o drivers and the video quality is supposed to be nice.

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#5 2008-04-20 7:02 pm

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Re: so why did apple discontinue the isight?

pottymouth wrote:

NSX wrote:

mood; steamed

I can see that. Did you expect it to come with an iSight? Did you miss the memo? "No USB" pretty much rules out any acceptable solution. Ain't nothing wrong with USB in this case. confused

But I agree. If they'd kept making the iSight I wouldn't have this useless little thing stuck in all my computers.

i didnt expect to come up with an isight i knew it was discotinued, but i sold him on the ease of macs.  when i had a blackbook the picture was incredibly clear for that type of camera.  i have tested numerous other [usb]webcams and they stink, rotten no less.



to aqua osx; reason for leaving windows, he's not finna get an ms camera


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#6 2008-04-20 7:42 pm

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Re: so why did apple discontinue the isight?

NSX wrote:

and no *uck USB, do not recommend usb cam

dude settle down ... the "built-in" isights ARE USB


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#7 2008-04-20 8:11 pm

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Re: so why did apple discontinue the isight?

NSX wrote:

to aqua osx; reason for leaving windows, he's not finna get an ms camera

It's MS hardware, not software, and it's seamless, what's the drawback?

It even looks subtle.

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#8 2008-04-20 8:30 pm

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Re: so why did apple discontinue the isight?

mrreet2001 wrote:

NSX wrote:

and no *uck USB, do not recommend usb cam

dude settle down ... the "built-in" isights ARE USB

that's fine can u sell me a good looking external one? didnt think so. if it were an apple isight external usb cam it would be acceptable

thelegendofjohn wrote:

It's MS hardware, not software, and it's seamless, what's the drawback?

It even looks subtle.

so is an xbox 360 rrod, but no one answered to the topic

wot's the reason behind the discont? lots of mini people would buy it, probably not that many macpro.  you guys are missing my point.

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#9 2008-04-20 8:45 pm

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Re: so why did apple discontinue the isight?

The iSight is now built in to all their laptops and the iMac. That is why they stopped selling a stand alone version of it.

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#10 2008-04-20 10:10 pm

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Re: so why did apple discontinue the isight?

Donkey Butter wrote:

The iSight is now built in to all their laptops and the iMac. That is why they stopped selling a stand alone version of it.

u dont get it either.  the isight was hot, it still is hot after 2 years of being discontinued it was always hot and will be til there is an alternative.

there are a few ipods they all play video should an ipod be dropped? i dont think so because they sell, and so did the isight. and it still sells at ridiculous prices.


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#11 2008-04-20 10:26 pm

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Re: so why did apple discontinue the isight?

Dude, obviously they didn't sell as well as you think, or they wouldn't have been discontinued.  Sounds like you think it should be an Apple-made product, or else it is crap.  Couldn't be farther from the truth.  You want an alternative to the iSight, its not gonna be from Apple.

NSX wrote:

there are a few ipods they all play video should an ipod be dropped? i dont think so because they sell, and so did the isight. and it still sells at ridiculous prices.

Might need to clarify this a bit...

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#12 2008-04-20 10:51 pm

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Re: so why did apple discontinue the isight?

I agree that the iSight is / was the best add-on camera I have seen in a while. So why not just GET one? eBay search for iSight

It's not like they took em all and dumped em in a landfill somewhere...


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#13 2008-04-20 11:14 pm

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Re: so why did apple discontinue the isight?

mac-compliant wrote:

Dude, obviously they didn't sell as well as you think, or they wouldn't have been discontinued.  Sounds like you think it should be an Apple-made product, or else it is crap.  Couldn't be farther from the truth.  You want an alternative to the iSight, its not gonna be from Apple.

Might need to clarify this a bit...

smilr wrote:

I agree that the iSight is / was the best add-on camera I have seen in a while. So why not just GET one? eBay search for iSight

It's not like they took em all and dumped em in a landfill somewhere...

wow no one is paying attention.  is this wot u guys really are?  u want more mac users not LESS!!!

to mac compliant; if a usb apple cam was made no prob.  but thats not wot i meant, i meant where are the 3rd party firewire cams?

my clarification.  it pertained to the part where all macs with built in screens have cameras.  there are many types of ipods.   all for different uses.  the nano/mini, the classic, the touch blah blah blah.  theoretical scenario; now all of a sudden lets just drop the nano/mini just because we have other ipods.  because what? there's no market for nano/mini's?

to smilr; i dont want nor need an isight.  it's for a friend that has long been a wintel user, and mini people aint gonna spend that kinda money via ebay


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#14 2008-04-20 11:20 pm

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Re: so why did apple discontinue the isight?

I think Apple discontinued the iSight in preparation to new Cinema Displays with them, but theyt have been delayed, IMO


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#15 2008-04-20 11:24 pm

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Re: so why did apple discontinue the isight?

IMO as well

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#16 2008-04-20 11:27 pm

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Re: so why did apple discontinue the isight?

A google search for firewire webcams turned up a few, but I wouldn't spend my money on them.  Not when a USB cam is more than enough.

I agree that more mac users is a good thing.  Means more money for Apple, which in turn means new product development.

Come to think of it, I don't know that many (if any) desktops come with a built-in camera.  And the mini is obviously a desktop.


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#17 2008-04-20 11:40 pm

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Re: so why did apple discontinue the isight?

Some other companies sell monitors with Webcams.
Probably be cheaper, but compatibility may be an issue.


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#18 2008-04-21 12:51 am

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Re: so why did apple discontinue the isight?

mac-compliant wrote:

A google search for firewire webcams turned up a few, but I wouldn't spend my money on them.  Not when a USB cam is more than enough.

I agree that more mac users is a good thing.  Means more money for Apple, which in turn means new product development.

Come to think of it, I don't know that many (if any) desktops come with a built-in camera.  And the mini is obviously a desktop.

i saw the sony which was a 4 pin more than a used isight. usb is crap always was and always will
usb 1.1? vs fw4 no contest
usb2 vs fw8 no contest
e/sata 1/1.5 vs fw16 no contest. [e/sata 3 we'll wait for fw3000] i detest usb, intel, and windows...i know i have to live with intel, but that doesnt meant i cant hate em like sassy women.

i dunno if an aio like imacs count, but they had cams since late g5's.  the extreme alum imac is pretty serious


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#19 2008-04-21 1:07 am

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Re: so why did apple discontinue the isight?

NSX wrote:

i know i have to live with intel, but that doesnt meant i cant hate em like sassy women.

lol

This thread is awesome.

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#20 2008-04-21 1:35 am

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Re: so why did apple discontinue the isight?

In that case: eBay


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#21 2008-04-21 6:54 am

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Re: so why did apple discontinue the isight?

thelegendofjohn wrote:

NSX wrote:

i know i have to live with intel, but that doesnt meant i cant hate em like sassy women.

lol

This thread is awesome.

I think NSX just likes to hear him self talk ... why else would he ignore or dismiss just about every logical statement in this thread shrug


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#22 2008-04-21 8:18 am

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Re: so why did apple discontinue the isight?

mrreet2001 wrote:

I think NSX just likes to hear him self talk ... why else would he ignore or dismiss just about every logical statement in this thread shrug

and where am i illogical? i have backed myself up and still really havent answered the discontinuation of isight.  i already speculated in the first post of the built in cameras for upcoming monitors.  yet that came back much later.

i did research and hearsay and all that noise but there is no definitive reason, and your comment doesnt move it forward either. it's not even an opinion on the topic for heaven sakes, but a snide worthless remark

if it the monitors were anounced even if they fail to deliver that would be viable.  but, they didnt so wot the hell?

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#23 2008-04-21 8:50 am

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Re: so why did apple discontinue the isight?

I still haven't figured out why they would have discontinued the external iSight.  I've got one on my desktop, wouldn't trade it.

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#24 2008-04-21 10:33 am

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Re: so why did apple discontinue the isight?

NSX wrote:

and where am i illogical?

Why was the isight discontinued?
IMO:
   a. It was 149$ which is WAY to expensive for most people.
   b. The only computers that the discontinuation of the isight affected are the mac pros and the mac mini ... apple has shown that they don't give a crap about the mini  ... there are even rumors that it will be discontinued and the mac pro ... I just don't see a lot of Pro users running around bitching that they don't have an apple branded web cam...
   c. the isight is a TOY, the quality isn't good enough for anything real, and USB web-cams are out there just as good for much less $

What is the big deal ... If you have to have an isight go buy one ... they are still available all over the place ...

or you can get another over priced Firewire Cam
or you can get an USB cam that is just as good and a lot cheaper

The xbox live vision camera is a nice camera for OSX ...

It supports 640 × 480 video at 30 fps (same as the isight)
it does lack a mic but the FW isight couldn't be used as a mic in many of the apps I tried to use it with anyway.


What's your beef with USB2 cams anyway ... get over it ... there is nothing wrong with them

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#25 2008-04-21 11:10 am

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Re: so why did apple discontinue the isight?

let me return the favour mrreet.  u seem to understand perfectly, i applaud u.

if i was a micro$hit user, u definitely make me wanna b a mac user.

and if my comparison between usb and firewire didnt justify, i have no idea wot my beef with usb is it just came out of my @ss, i made it all up.  i love usb now, it is the greatest, i am sorry for riling u up


now for some serious $hit-
     when u convert someone and it's usually a daunting task or u show em something pretty,  they give macs 1 shot.  if it sucks that first one time they generally never go back. with an argument of "if i wanted this frustration i woulda stuck w micro$hit"  it's hard to test new users patience as with a slightly seasoned user.  things like leopard bugs, or imovie 08, and in this instance the isight.  regular mac users can stand these kinks, but not a new one.  u can almost be sure fire that their next comp will be a micro$hit.  because in reality 1 KP=100 BSODs that is truth.   one kp and their faith in macs is lost.

to clarify i do not want to get an isight, i'm an audiophile, and i could give a damn.   it is the premise not the actual product.  any more confusion?


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