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#1 2008-05-07 6:59 pm

Farmerkev
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Myanmar

Possibly 100,000 dead.
Seemed like there ought to be a thread about it.


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#2 2008-05-07 7:08 pm

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Re: Myanmar

Don't forget that the military junta in charge of Burma is making international relief jump through bureaucratic hoops to get into the country.


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#3 2008-05-07 7:26 pm

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Re: Myanmar

The long term is pretty scary too, as the country's prime rice-producing region was pretty much destroyed.

I shudder to think of such a grotesquely awful government's response to such a disaster.


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#4 2008-05-07 7:30 pm

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Re: Myanmar

Oh, I don't think it will come as a surprise. I suspect that they would prefer to just let the whole area die, and the repopulate it with more pliable subjects. Keep in mind, this was the same site as the monk riots.

I suspect it will get a lot worse, only due to the Burmese troops, not the weather.

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#5 2008-05-07 7:31 pm

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Re: Myanmar

Oh, I don't think it will come as a surprise. I suspect that they would prefer to just let the whole area die, and the repopulate it with more pliable subjects. Keep in mind, this was the same site as the monk riots.

I suspect it will get a lot worse, only due to the Burmese troops, not the weather.

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#6 2008-05-07 10:22 pm

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Re: Myanmar

Now there's a country that could have been preemptively invaded!


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#7 2008-05-08 12:52 am

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Re: Myanmar

Hank Rearden wrote:

Now there's a country that could have been preemptively invaded!

Why? They seem to be killing people just fine.


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#8 2008-05-08 1:13 am

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Re: Myanmar

Yikes.  I've not been paying much attention to the news lately, and was about to enter this thread with a smartass remark like "Is that the one to the right of Astranaar?" but... eek


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#9 2008-05-08 3:35 am

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Re: Myanmar

everlong205 wrote:

...... And you know what the relief agencies can do? NOthing. because its an act of nature beyond our power to control.

I believe that's why they are called "relief" agencies and not prevention agencies.....they come along after the cyclone etc. and offer relief. I could be wrong though.

It will be interesting to see how the government copes though...to see if the only thing they can do with any effectiveness is the oppression of their own people.


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#10 2008-05-08 7:50 am

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Re: Myanmar

We could have stopped it, if only we had listened to AlGore.


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#11 2008-05-08 8:37 am

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Re: Myanmar

Farmerkev wrote:

Possibly 100,000 dead.

Its hard to even fathom the figure in any concrete way. Its truly horrible. It seems very distant from our collective consciousness over here, its reality is almost nonexistent on the news, just a sort of far away factoid.


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#12 2008-05-08 9:45 am

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Re: Myanmar

Apparently there's talk at the UN of sending in aid, escorted by an international military force, with or without the Burmese government's approval. Kind of a Haiti type thing.

Ordinarily it would be impossible because China could be guaranteed to veto any such move, but with the Olympics approaching they might be too nervous about PR to coddle the junta as they usually do.


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#13 2008-05-08 11:17 am

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Re: Myanmar

The Cajuns in NOLA just WANT you Canadians to think they like you.  Then, once they have you where they want you, they will take back Acadia and flood Ottawa with  jambalaya.

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#14 2008-05-08 11:57 am

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Re: Myanmar

Why don't the US just invade and bring democracy to the region?

It's what we do, right?


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#15 2008-05-08 2:32 pm

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Re: Myanmar

I'm splitting this Katrina stuff off.


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#16 2008-05-09 9:12 am

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Re: Myanmar

Now the UN has halted transfer of aid to Myanmar because the Militray Junta government has seized the aid cargo that has landed there.  They also suggest to the world on the whole to only sent goods, but no personnel.

There are people starving in the street, there are thousands of people who are in need, and there are people who are trained to deal with such hardships willing to help, yet the Myanmar government would obviously rather let them die.

I just don't get it!

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#17 2008-05-09 9:31 am

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Re: Myanmar

Pithecanthropus wrote:

Now the UN has halted transfer of aid to Myanmar because the Militray Junta government has seized the aid cargo that has landed there.  They also suggest to the world on the whole to only sent goods, but no personnel.

There are people starving in the street, there are thousands of people who are in need, and there are people who are trained to deal with such hardships willing to help, yet the Myanmar government would obviously rather let them die.

I just don't get it!

It's an evil military dictatorship that doesn't really give too squirts or a giggle about the people. What don't you get?

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#18 2008-05-09 9:38 am

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Re: Myanmar

ShnickyShnack wrote:

I shudder to think of such a grotesquely awful government's response to such a disaster.

You don't have to imagine it, just remember back to Katrina

Daniel wrote:

Yikes.  I've not been paying much attention to the news lately, and was about to enter this thread with a smartass remark like "Is that the one to the right of Astranaar?" but... eek

...but you decided to go ahead and make the dumbass remark anyway...
nice


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#19 2008-05-09 9:59 am

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Re: Myanmar

Please, let's not interfere with the internal affairs of a sovereign nation. The aid will be used-- don't worry yourself about it.


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#20 2008-05-09 10:00 am

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Re: Myanmar

Some are saying the death toll, including people who died in the aftermath because they couldn't get aid, could top 500,000.

That's double the losses from the tsunami.


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#21 2008-05-09 10:50 am

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Re: Myanmar

Just got some satellite imagery at work put online:

Before cyclone

After cyclone

Crazy smurf.


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#22 2008-05-09 10:55 am

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Re: Myanmar

Holy Christ.


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#23 2008-05-09 10:56 am

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Re: Myanmar

Let's not bring religion into this.

Always interesting to see before and after. That tidal surge was a mother.


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#24 2008-05-09 10:58 am

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Re: Myanmar

I usually have imagery within 3 days of any disaster, sadly. Its horrifying to look at.


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#25 2008-05-09 11:14 am

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Re: Myanmar

The Burmese junta is still preventing supplies and SAR personnel from entering.

What the smurf?


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