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#26 2008-06-11 11:11 am
- Booksley
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Re: Norton is finally expiring, now what?
mtpalms wrote:
PS: Is it alright to get online anyway? I have bank downloads, bill paying, and other bookkeeping to do for my clients.
To be 100% honest, if you're behind a router and not visiting shady sites, you're fine.
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#27 2008-06-11 11:20 am
- mtpalms
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Re: Norton is finally expiring, now what?
mtpalms wrote:
dvpierce wrote:
AVG is fine.
Or you can re-up your norton subscription - but that's not free.
Removing ALL traces of Symantec from your PC? I've tried it. I think it may be impossible, but after you've uninstalled all that it will let you, you can use msconfig to disable the remaining software.I just reread this thread to refresh my memory. What is msconfig? Will that solve my problem?
Edit: I just found it thanks to this:
http://www.netsquirrel.com/msconfig/msconfig_xp.html
Under Services, I unchecked
Symantec NetConnect Service
LiveUpdate
LiveUpdate Notice Service Ex
and
LiveUpdate Notice Service
That sort of explains the error message that included something about the program might be running.
Didn't work, Windows still won't let me delete the LiveUpdate folder from the Program Files Folder.
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#28 2008-06-11 11:31 am
- mtpalms
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Re: Norton is finally expiring, now what?
Booksley wrote:
mtpalms wrote:
PS: Is it alright to get online anyway? I have bank downloads, bill paying, and other bookkeeping to do for my clients.
To be 100% honest, if you're behind a router and not visiting shady sites, you're fine.
The only possibly shady stuff I do are taper shows, and I do that on the MBP
I'm careful on the PC where I go, but I'm leery that I may click on an innocent looking link that redirects me to something foul. Better safe than sorry, but I'll go ahead and get back to work.
I do still want to get the Symantec stuff either gone or disabled though so I can install Avast!.
Now I understand why people say Norton is worse than the viruses it supposedly protects you from.
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#29 2008-06-11 2:31 pm
- Bat
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Re: Norton is finally expiring, now what?
Norton used to be good, but that was more when founder Peter was still around.
Msconfig is command-line stuff, to a degree. Start/Run, type 'msconfig' no quotes, click OK, look under Startup tab. Uncheck what you don't want running at boot, click Apply.
As to deleting things, sometimes they're write-protected/read-only. You can change that under Properties.
If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach a conclusion - George Bernard Shaw
"Fire up a colortini, sit back, relax, and watch the pictures, now, as they fly through the air."
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#30 2008-06-11 2:36 pm
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Re: Norton is finally expiring, now what?
mtpalms wrote:
I have one last question but it's kind of off topic:
I haven't upgraded to spk3 because, like I mentioned beofre I inherited this machine from my late boss, and it is registered under his name. Does it require a password? Is it terribly important to make this upgrade?
Don't think it needs a PW per se, but it likely requires Admin access. If there's plenty of disc space, I'd do it, but from the full 316MB DL rather than Windows Update. Not vital to upgrade, but better.
If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach a conclusion - George Bernard Shaw
"Fire up a colortini, sit back, relax, and watch the pictures, now, as they fly through the air."
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#31 2008-06-11 3:23 pm
- mtpalms
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Re: Norton is finally expiring, now what?
Bat wrote:
Norton used to be good, but that was more when founder Peter was still around.
Msconfig is command-line stuff, to a degree. Start/Run, type 'msconfig' no quotes, click OK, look under Startup tab. Uncheck what you don't want running at boot, click Apply.
As to deleting things, sometimes they're write-protected/read-only. You can change that under Properties.
I tried to uncheck the box that says read-only (click apply, click okay, etc), which it lets me do, but when reopen Properties and check again, Read-only is selected again. 
Edit: There are files in there that aren't marked read-only, but give me the "Access Denied" error when I try to delete them.
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#32 2008-06-16 11:17 pm
- Bat
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Re: Norton is finally expiring, now what?
Sorry I couldn't do more with that then. I'm still busy.
Anyway, I think I found out the why of AVG 8.0's increased resource usage.
Early last month, webmasters here at The Reg noticed an unexpected spike in our site traffic. Suddenly, we had far more readers than ever before, and they were reading at a record clip. Visits actually doubled on certain landing pages, and more than a few ho-hum stories attracted an audience worthy of a Pulitzer Prize winner. Or so it seemed.
As it turns out, much of this traffic was driven by the new malware scanner from AVG Technologies.
Six months ago, AVG acquired Exploit Prevention Labs and its Linkscanner, a tool that automatically scans search engine results before you click on them. If you search Google, for instance, and ten results turn up, it visits all ten links to ensure they're malware free.
Then, in late April, AVG rolled Linkscanner into its anti-virus engine, which has about 70 million active users worldwide. The company estimates that 20 million machines have upgraded to the tool's new incarnation, AVG version 8, and this has already cooked up enough ghost clicks to skew traffic not only on The Reg but any number of other sites as well.
Adam Beale, who runs a UK-based internet consultancy, says that across his small stable of clients, traffic has spiked as much as 80 per cent on some sites. And this is more than just an inconvenience. After all, sites live and die by their traffic numbers. And net resources aren't free.
"Although [the AVG Linkscanner] might be good for the security of users, it's a real pain for website owners and webmasters," Beale tells us, having blogged about this growing problem. "It's causing people to think their traffic is increasing, costing those who pay for bandwidth, and wasting disk space with large amounts of unnecessary lines in log files."
If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach a conclusion - George Bernard Shaw
"Fire up a colortini, sit back, relax, and watch the pictures, now, as they fly through the air."
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#33 2008-07-08 2:40 am
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Re: Norton is finally expiring, now what?
Might be worth a retry now, tho so far I'm fine with Avast.
AFTER MAKING ITSELF the target of much webmaster wrath over the past few months, AVG just announced that the new version of its scanning software will cease churning out inordinate amounts of fake traffic.
...
But AVG seems to have taken the vitriolic rantings of the web masters into account, announcing on an Aussie tech discussion forum, Whirlpool, that it would bring out a new version of its software on July 9th, minus the problematic pre-scanning of results tool. The AVG LinkScanner will now apparently "only notify users of malicious sites" and a patch is already being deployed to AVG’s freeware users as we type.
If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach a conclusion - George Bernard Shaw
"Fire up a colortini, sit back, relax, and watch the pictures, now, as they fly through the air."
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#34 2008-07-08 1:51 pm
- Mr. Happypants
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Re: Norton is finally expiring, now what?
Good to know, I'm still running AVG 7.5 at home and was delaying updating to Ver8 or jumping to another app altogether.
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#35 2008-07-09 1:30 am
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Re: Norton is finally expiring, now what?
AVAST. Just my vote.
Used it 7 years. No viruses, and it's not a resource hog.
Better knock on wood... 
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