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Tallgeese wrote:

I'll believe it when I see it, and even then I'll look for the catch.

ditto

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/03/ … index.html

Last edited by davic3 (2008-06-03 12:05 pm)

CNN wrote:

Hillary Clinton tells New York lawmakers she is open to being Barack Obama's running mate, The Associated Press reports.

Breaking news on CNN, but no article yet. I think tonight she will end it.

McAddict wrote:

CNN wrote:

Hillary Clinton tells New York lawmakers she is open to being Barack Obama's running mate, The Associated Press reports.

Breaking news on CNN, but no article yet. I think tonight she will end it.

She may be open to it but I can't see him being that stupid and actually offering it.

Right now he's beating McCain.
He doesn't want to mobilize the Reps, he wants them demoralized and unmotivated to vote. He also needs to keep the independents that hate her.

bratboy wrote:

Why would that be stupid?  It would be the best way to insure that her supporters (of which there are a lot) would be on board for November.

And, in the act of holding her enemy closer, she may just be able to surreptitiously sink him.

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Why would he want Hillary as a veep? A running mate is supposed to bring votes to the table, not cost them.

If Hillary's supporters are dumb and sheeplike enough to vote for Obama for the sole reason that she's on the ticket, then I say smurf 'em; they're not much of an asset.

How many Hillary supporters will vote for McCain rather than the Democratic nominee? Especially one who has the potential to whip up a lot of enthusiasm?

Obama's campaign so far has been incredibly classy; right up to the end he stayed out of the gutter, avoided gender-baiting. I think he'll be able to unify the party. Assuming the Klintons can shut their goddamned yaps, that is.

If I were Obama I wouldnt want her as Veep but I would definitely want her in cabinet. Every Prez needs a Bull dog to sick on his enemies and Hillary would be great for that..

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Why would he want Hillary as a veep? A running mate is supposed to bring votes to the table, not cost them.

How would she not "bring votes to the table?"

If Hillary's supporters are dumb and sheeplike enough to vote for Obama for the sole reason that she's on the ticket, then I say smurf 'em; they're not much of an asset.

It would be "dumb" to vote for the ticket upon which the candidate you support holds the VP slot? 

How many Hillary supporters will vote for McCain rather than the Democratic nominee? Especially one who has the potential to whip up a lot of enthusiasm?

Some polling has suggested a lot.  That's not to say that they actually would come November, but you would have to be nuts to believe that Obama doesn't need or want Clinton's support in the general.

Nefarious wrote:

That said, I would be decidedly less than pleased.

I have to agree. to me she represents everything I do not like in politics. Her only real concern is getting elected. It doesn't matter if you have to trample your own party, argue to change the rules, whatever the cost just win. I do see the potential of appealing to her supporters but if she were to finally hold true to her promise of doing whatever she can to get the democratic nominee elected than why bother to put her and all her baggage on the ticket

bratboy wrote:

This is why.

A majority of democratic voters would be happy with her selection.  When the question is open-ended, she still comes in much higher than anyone else.

And look at the Reps and indy's.
That means oppo against.

Farmerkev wrote:

bratboy wrote:

This is why.

A majority of democratic voters would be happy with her selection.  When the question is open-ended, she still comes in much higher than anyone else.

And look at the Reps and indy's.
That means oppo against.

Bingo. Like I said -- she doesn't add to his tally, at least not much.

He's gonna have to get someone who's strong on defense, I figure.

As for Hillary, she totally screwed the pooch on this one. As long as Obama stays classy, her supporters will chill out (at least most of them will). At this point, I don't see why anyone in Obama's position would tell her anything but "smurf you."

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Why would he want Hillary as a veep? A running mate is supposed to bring votes to the table, not cost them.

If Hillary's supporters are dumb and sheeplike enough to vote for Obama for the sole reason that she's on the ticket, then I say smurf 'em; they're not much of an asset.

Not much of an assett? She won nearly half the delegates and more of the popular vote (depending on how you count the votes of course) than Brack. And in the past few contests has, for the most part been blowing him out of the water. I assure you, pissing off hillary's voters is not going to engender love for Barack.

How many Hillary supporters will vote for McCain rather than the Democratic nominee? Especially one who has the potential to whip up a lot of enthusiasm?

Obama's campaign so far has been incredibly classy; right up to the end he stayed out of the gutter, avoided gender-baiting. I think he'll be able to unify the party. Assuming the Klintons can shut their goddamned yaps, that is.

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

Just watched her speech. I can't believe she didn't quit.

CNN headline:    Obama clinches; no Clinton concession 

I had to turn off the TV because I need some sleep , but it appears that Obama was appropriately gracious in victory and also quickly turned to McCain bashing.

The best thing for Obama to do is keep campaigning in lite mode and enjoy the week.   Let Hillary fade for a few weeks.