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#1 2008-06-20 10:28 am
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Privatization of water?
http://www.naturalnews.com/023468.html
(NaturalNews) The fate of the nation's water supply is under debate as hearings in the House and Senate begin on the Water Restoration Act of 2007. Opponents claim this Act threatens to greatly expand the Federal Government's roll in water management. This Act would define waters of the U.S. as "all interstate and intrastate waters and their tributaries, including lakes, rivers, streams (including intermittent streams) mudflats, sand flats, wetlands, sloughs, prairie potholes, wet meadows, playa lakes, natural ponds, and all impoundments of the foregoing". In other words, this bill will give the federal government total control of the most basic of all commodities necessary to life on this earth.
I've not read this site before, so I'm not sure about the quality, but the assertion is pretty scary. Every place that has privatized the water supply has run into problems. Contamination doesn't get reported, and prices go up.
Now, it appears that movement is afoot in the US to do the same thing. Sadly, we live in a nation of apathetic retards, so no one will likely notice until we all start getting sick (of paying extra, and from the contamination)
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#2 2008-06-20 10:56 am
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Re: Privatization of water?
The the Federal Government's roll in water management?
Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.
Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.
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#3 2008-06-20 10:58 am
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Re: Privatization of water?
user wrote:
The the Federal Government's roll in water management?
Hey, I just copied & pasted, blame the knuckle head who wrote it. 
(though it does make you wonder about their journalistic skills...)
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#4 2008-06-20 11:12 am
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#5 2008-06-20 11:54 am
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Re: Privatization of water?
radarman wrote:
user wrote:
The the Federal Government's roll in water management?
Hey, I just copied & pasted, blame the knuckle head who wrote it.
(though it does make you wonder about their journalistic skills...)
Oh, I'm not blaming you, I'm agreeing with your concern about the site's quality.
Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.
Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.
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#6 2008-06-20 1:00 pm
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Re: Privatization of water?
They used Microsoft Word's spell check.
I'm not dead yet.
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#7 2008-06-20 1:08 pm
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Would let the market drive improvements and efficiency.
Though, there's still a lot of easy wins to be found with water usage. People don't make much attempt to conserve. The transmission methods are absurdly inefficient.
Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim. Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet." They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.
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#8 2008-06-20 1:47 pm
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Re: Privatization of water?
There's way too many farmers out west using the wrong type of irrigation. They should be using drip irrigation out in the marginal desert, however, they are using things like sprinklers instead.
And don't get me started on Las Vegas and their egregious waste of water.
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#10 2008-06-20 5:14 pm
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There already is a privatized water market. It's called bottle water and it is a booming industry.
Vegas in general is waste. Idiots built a large city in the middle of a freakin' desert.
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#11 2008-06-20 5:18 pm
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resedit wrote:
There already is a privatized water market. It's called bottle water and it is a booming industry.
Vegas in general is waste. Idiots built a large city in the middle of a freakin' desert.
Its adjacent to the Colorado river. No more stupid than 90% of the rest of the cities out west.
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#12 2008-06-20 5:27 pm
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I keep thinking of the Imperial Valley (current temperature: 115°F, relative humidity:5%) which was settled when a bunch of farmers said "Excuse me, Federal Government, but could you build a massive irrigation system from the Colorado River to this below-sea level desert (average annual rainfall: 2.92") so we can turn it into farmland?
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#13 2008-06-20 6:16 pm
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:: takes away Tallgeese's delicious and cheap avocados ::
Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim. Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet." They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.
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#14 2008-06-20 6:22 pm
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Tallgeese wrote:
I keep thinking of the Imperial Valley (current temperature: 115°F, relative humidity:5%) which was settled when a bunch of farmers said "Excuse me, Federal Government, but could you build a massive irrigation system from the Colorado River to this below-sea level desert (average annual rainfall: 2.92") so we can turn it into farmland?
When Congressman Roberts of Pennsylvania had traversed the desert to enter Imperial Valley, he said: "The one incomprehensible fact with me is that you people came here. Now that you are here and have brought about this marvelous development, I can well understand why you stay here. But how did it happen that you came out into this Valley when it was such a forbidding desert as I have seen in coming here? - that is the mystery."
Congressman Roberts did not realize that there is in America a nomadic race of beings, always pressing toward the frontier and carving empires to endure for the ages. Here in Imperial Valley, last of the American frontiers, they saw the opportunity, and we may believe that as they settled down near the river to make new habitation they but duplicated the processes of the ancients the skill of the moderns.
It was no ancient that brought forth Imperial Valley from the desolation of the Colorado Desert. There is no alchemy and no mysticism in the methods whereby the desert is reclaimed. Everywhere in modern husbandry the scientist is analyzing the soil and determining the element that is lacking for highest productivity, and he has discovered that in arid lands the one missing element is moisture. That supplied, the plant food that has been accumulating through the ages brings forth crops to astonish those unacquainted with the desert.
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#15 2008-06-20 6:30 pm
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I think I hurt my eyeball-rolling muscles.
I still believe in liberalism today as much as I ever did, but, oh, there was a happy time when I believed in liberals.
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#16 2008-06-20 6:38 pm
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Do you also cringe when you hear Israeli propaganda about "making the desert bloom"?
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#17 2008-06-20 6:39 pm
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I have never heard that particular Israeli propaganda, and if I had I would probably have associated it with nuclear explosions.
I still believe in liberalism today as much as I ever did, but, oh, there was a happy time when I believed in liberals.
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#18 2008-06-20 7:36 pm
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Prior to 1968, there was a bit of campaign to settle the Negev. Many of these deserts are reasonably fertile given enough water. Water's rarely free, though.
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#19 2008-06-20 9:10 pm
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Tallgeese wrote:
I keep thinking of the Imperial Valley (current temperature: 115°F, relative humidity:5%) which was settled when a bunch of farmers said "Excuse me, Federal Government, but could you build a massive irrigation system from the Colorado River to this below-sea level desert (average annual rainfall: 2.92") so we can turn it into farmland?
Farmland is one thing. A major city is something different all together.
Farmland doesn't need the same water quality as people. They can and do use reclaimed water for farming. People in major cities like to have nice green lawns and blooming roses, and they water them off of municipal people water.
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#20 2008-06-20 9:15 pm
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I must admit - it really gets under skin when people like me, who live where water is plentiful, are told to reduce our watering while people who live where water is scarce, getting our water, fill their swimming pools and hot tubs.
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#21 2008-06-20 9:37 pm
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resedit wrote:
I must admit - it really gets under skin when people like me, who live where water is plentiful, are told to reduce our watering while people who live where water is scarce, getting our water, fill their swimming pools and hot tubs.

Looks like drought to me.
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#22 2008-06-20 9:52 pm
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Yup - we are in drought, but there is plenty of water up here. When there is drought, those who choose to live where it is dry even in non drought conditions, filling their swimming pools and watering their lawns, require me to use less.
Don't build a metropolis where there is not a stable water supply. That's not a difficult concept.
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#23 2008-06-20 10:01 pm
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It was probably a more difficult concept a hundred or a few hundred years ago when those metropolises were founded.
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#24 2008-06-20 10:24 pm
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JakeTheTall wrote:
Would let the market drive improvements and efficiency.
Though, there's still a lot of easy wins to be found with water usage. People don't make much attempt to conserve. The transmission methods are absurdly inefficient.
you mean farms? or are you suggesting the brown lawn and dirty vehicles are not evidence of my conservation?
frankly, i see the way the market and automotive industry is handling energy, and point as rebut.
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#25 2008-06-20 11:17 pm
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It was probably a more difficult concept a hundred or a few hundred years ago when those metropolises were founded.
You mean when water was even more difficult to transport there?
People originally moved there because the land was cheap. It was cheap for a reason - and now they want us to give them our water so they can sell their land for insane amounts.
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