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#26 2008-07-02 10:43 am
- Mr. T
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Re: Remember all those DOS games you wanted to play?
user wrote:
Bat wrote:
User, you're running DX thru Boot Camp in D3D, right? OpenGL is not as good, unless you're trying out TruForm, which I'm sure you're not.
As for speed, perhaps enabling curved surfaces would induce some needed performance penalty as well as improving the overall look.Yes. BC in XP on a 2.4 Ghz 20" iMac.
I looked at the options and I thought I had all the switches thrown to full. Is what you are talking about a command line advanced option? I have a vague memory of that being the case.
You can change the renderer by clicking the Safe Mode version of the program (there's an in-game setting but it doesn't always work). If it is a driver issue (I suspect it is), try updating your BootCamp. If you're at the latest version, you can also use ATi's official drivers (which are almost definitely newer) with the help of Mobility Modder. If none of that works, Cider will.
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#27 2008-07-02 12:46 pm
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Re: Remember all those DOS games you wanted to play?
user wrote:
Bat wrote:
User, you're running DX thru Boot Camp in D3D, right? OpenGL is not as good, unless you're trying out TruForm, which I'm sure you're not.
As for speed, perhaps enabling curved surfaces would induce some needed performance penalty as well as improving the overall look.Yes. BC in XP on a 2.4 Ghz 20" iMac.
I looked at the options and I thought I had all the switches thrown to full. Is what you are talking about a command line advanced option? I have a vague memory of that being the case.
Close. Easiest is thru the DeusEx.cg file in /System...
[WinDrv.WindowsClient]
WindowedViewportX=640
WindowedViewportY=480
WindowedColorBits=32
FullscreenViewportX=1680
FullscreenViewportY=1050
FullscreenColorBits=32
Brightness=0.600000
MipFactor=1.000000
UseDirectDraw=True
UseJoystick=False
CaptureMouse=True
StartupFullscreen=True
CurvedSurfaces=True
ScreenFlashes=True
...
DX was built on a 'stretched' Unreal engine, rather than UT's version. Sweeney swore to never put that option in again after too many enabled it, forgot, and suffered poor performance without knowing why. The option was hidden in later iterations.
I haven't adjusted brightness, gamma etc. as I didn't play, just confirm good running. Might need a tweak or two.
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#28 2008-07-02 1:24 pm
- user
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Re: Remember all those DOS games you wanted to play?
OK, thanks, I'll check it out. I haven't tried too awful hard as I'm still spending too much of my time in the modded STALKER universe. I played through Doos many many times and I could run those levels in my sleep.
Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.
Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.
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#29 2008-07-02 3:10 pm
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Re: Remember all those DOS games you wanted to play?
I haven't really played since 2001! 
Or Max Payne, or...
::wills new system to finish itself::
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#30 2008-07-03 6:59 am
- Booksley
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Re: Remember all those DOS games you wanted to play?
Bat wrote:
I haven't really played since 2001!
::wills new system to finish itself::
If you build it, they will come.
I'm not sure who though.
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#31 2008-07-03 7:08 am
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Re: Remember all those DOS games you wanted to play?
With my luck, Gravemind 
'n' friends. A meeting of the Compound Minds. 
If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach a conclusion - George Bernard Shaw
"Fire up a colortini, sit back, relax, and watch the pictures, now, as they fly through the air."
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#32 2008-09-18 12:37 pm
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Re: Remember all those DOS games you wanted to play?
Bat wrote:
I hope most reading this know that many DOS games already run under XP in DOS emu mode.
The trickiest generally aren't the earliest, but those from the mid-90s- sound cards often were very finicky about resource allocation (IRQs and DMAs). Late '80s- early '90s games without (or with only rudimentary) sound support fare the best.NightCougar_37 wrote:
Sweet, maybe it will help get my Redneck Rampage collection working again :D
You know we already figgered that. :p
Dos irq's and Dma's Are very Easy,I Still Use DOS to this day,its mutated from ms-dos 6.22 to ms-dos 7.10<win98 dos> with alot of freedos and Drdos utilitys/cdrom drivers.
normal sound setup is :
adress 220,irq 5,dma 1,hdma 5
funny cuz its in dos that i emulated a mac power pc with os 9 for years on a pentuim 75mhz
when os9 was the shet and dos ruled.but there was games i liked on the mac i couldin't play till i found FUSION for dos.i have xp now,its a chopped up vershion that only uses 50 megs of ram,but on another hard drive sits a mini win98 with dos thats 40 megs TOTAL Size.. For The Dos i love and the games i can't forget.there for awhile i thought i was Fu&*ed Becouse of PCI Sound Card That No Longer Suported DOS,Just Dos Mode Till I Found the Sound Blaster LIVE! Dos Drivers from A Mame Arcard emu Page.i Did Start Up The Fusion Emu And Smiled Cuz it had sound again,right now i am playing FMV games for dos<full motion Vidio>,"Under A Killing Moon" is what i am on right now,i already whipped "Night trap And D" oh the point was on my tv computer my doughter loves Rampaging Red Necks..she likes killing chickens:)
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#33 2008-09-18 2:14 pm
- mrreet2001
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Re: Remember all those DOS games you wanted to play?
WTF was that.
Oh and if I had a daughter I wouldn't encourage her to be involved with any red necks. ESPECIALLY rampaging ones.
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#34 2008-09-18 2:26 pm
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Re: Remember all those DOS games you wanted to play?
Sweeeet... I have so many old "DOS Collection" CDs from the mid '90s...
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#36 2008-09-18 8:25 pm
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Re: Remember all those DOS games you wanted to play?
Steel Panthers.
If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach a conclusion - George Bernard Shaw
"Fire up a colortini, sit back, relax, and watch the pictures, now, as they fly through the air."
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#37 2008-09-18 8:38 pm
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Re: Remember all those DOS games you wanted to play?
mrreet2001 wrote:
WTF was that.
Oh and if I had a daughter I wouldn't encourage her to be involved with any red necks. ESPECIALLY rampaging ones.
it was me expressing my strong liking for dos and macs in emulators,also i gave the defult settings for sound blaster emulation for people with choppy or jerky sound.
ps. smurf u and your doughter,cuz it keeps mine from getting into trubble and teaches her hand eye coronation.
if u didin't mean to sound so rude i am sorry,but in my dealings with mac people MOST are very rude.get irc and join channel #macintosh and mention ABANDONEWARE.i smurfing dear u
Anyway
Skyroads rock,it free now and there is a xmass ed.
and for rampaging rednecks is there a way to play over tcp/ip,i'd like to play ya guys
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#38 2008-09-18 8:40 pm
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Re: Remember all those DOS games you wanted to play?
dvpierce wrote:
Sweeeet... I have so many old "DOS Collection" CDs from the mid '90s...
i have 27 gigs worth of dos ware from apps to games,if u remember some stuff let me know and i'll add it to my bbs and u can leech it
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#39 2008-09-19 12:59 am
Re: Remember all those DOS games you wanted to play?
Just so you know, most people here don't have an issue with abandonware and lots probably don't even care about piracy. It's for the protection of the site and its members that we don't discuss how to share copyright materials illegally
And you might here from the mods about dodging the censor bot. Just swear if you have to. We're all free to turn off the filter in our accounts.
Lastly, I'm almost positive mrreet2001 was making a joke. Lay off the steroids.
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#40 2008-09-19 3:29 am
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Re: Remember all those DOS games you wanted to play?
Metacell wrote:
we don't discuss how to share copyright materials illegally
And you might here from the mods about dodging the censor bot. Just swear if you have to. We're all free to turn off the filter in our accounts.
Lastly, I'm almost positive mrreet2001 was making a joke. Lay off the steroids.
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DeadMouse wrote:
and for rampaging rednecks is there a way to play over tcp/ip,i'd like to play ya guys
Your odds decrease with every post like that.
If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach a conclusion - George Bernard Shaw
"Fire up a colortini, sit back, relax, and watch the pictures, now, as they fly through the air."
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#41 2008-10-05 1:36 am
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Re: Remember all those DOS games you wanted to play?
Metacell wrote:
Just so you know, most people here don't have an issue with abandonware and lots probably don't even care about piracy. It's for the protection of the site and its members that we don't discuss how to share copyright materials illegally
And you might here from the mods about dodging the censor bot. Just swear if you have to. We're all free to turn off the filter in our accounts.
Lastly, I'm almost positive mrreet2001 was making a joke. Lay off the steroids.
pffft
i just wanted to share freeware/abandonewere and play the smurf with u all,rampaging rednecks i would like to play and since u liked it also i thought i could play you:lol:
and uhhh if i was on steroids i wouldin't be so damned lazy:D
and use of the free functions such as smilys 
and frowns 
or pissed 
or WTF 
gestures would have helped to see he/she was kidding
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