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#1 2008-08-04 3:24 pm
- radarman
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Breaking! Obama "too presidential" to win?
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la … 8035.story
America, meet Barack The Arrogant.
Did you hear, this guy's already talking about redecorating the Lincoln Bedroom? Or that a few weeks back, he stood behind a podium bearing a faux presidential seal? The young upstart from Illinois has even got his minions planning a White House transition!
We have reporters, columnists and TV talking heads to thank for exposing these outrageous displays. So apparently the verdict is in: Sen. Barack Obama, too confident to govern.
It all would be quite funny if many people didn't seem to be inhaling this multimedia stink bomb as if it were fragrant truth.
I thought this might have been another Onion article mistakenly taken out of context, but no - it seems there are those who believe Obama is too confident. and is acting too presidential, to win.
WTF?
Hmm, might be his recent trip:
So he appeared at ease with world leaders, talked animatedly with beaming American troops and drew huge civilian crowds. Then the pundits -- who had been taking a round of bashing for supposedly going easy on Obama -- told Obama he needed to beware of appearing too presidential.
So, it's a bad thing that we might have a president who not only uses complete sentences, but can use them well in front of other world leaders?
I guess "stupid, naive, bumbling idiot" is what's driving the swing vote these days.
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#2 2008-08-04 3:31 pm
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Re: Breaking! Obama "too presidential" to win?
There's an entire McCain attack ad on this subject.
I still believe in liberalism today as much as I ever did, but, oh, there was a happy time when I believed in liberals.
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#3 2008-08-04 3:39 pm
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Re: Breaking! Obama "too presidential" to win?
Oh, and about that campaign seal that got the everlongs of the nation hyperventilating:
Look what the Republicans have been using for fundraising for years
I still believe in liberalism today as much as I ever did, but, oh, there was a happy time when I believed in liberals.
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#4 2008-08-04 3:46 pm
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Re: Breaking! Obama "too presidential" to win?
yes, such people (well, at least one of them) posts on this board
"One thing we've learned is there's a difference between being disappointed and having madmen in authority."
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#5 2008-08-04 5:43 pm
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Re: Breaking! Obama "too presidential" to win?
And to think a common right-wing talking point is that this country will fail because of a lack of morals in the population.
Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim. Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet." They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.
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#7 2008-08-04 7:16 pm
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Re: Breaking! Obama "too presidential" to win?
Such a criticism would be laughable if it weren't so tragic...or is that the other way around?
BOYCOTT SONY
"I think the question now is not whether you went to Vietnam or whether you didn't, whether you fought in the war or fought against the war. I think the only question is whether we can find a president smart enough never to make a mistake like that again"--Molly Ivins, way back in 1992
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#8 2008-08-04 9:02 pm
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Re: Breaking! Obama "too presidential" to win?
I find it funny that this is the worst they can throw at him. He's too popular, yeah, I'm sure that will hurt.
I could bore you with a philosophical tirade about freedom and tyranny, or try and explain to you what new horizons are suddenly open to me, but I doubt you would understand and if you did it might frighten you. That amuses me.
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#9 2008-08-04 9:29 pm
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Re: Breaking! Obama "too presidential" to win?
I think they are saying he's overconfident.
Do your part to combat global warming.
Eat a cow.
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#10 2008-08-04 9:54 pm
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Re: Breaking! Obama "too presidential" to win?
Farmerkev wrote:
I think they are saying he's overconfident.
So why don't "they" plainly say that?
"Hell, I'm sure Og had some cool way of banging two rocks together, until he took himself too seriously."
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#11 2008-08-04 10:02 pm
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Re: Breaking! Obama "too presidential" to win?
iBubba wrote:
Farmerkev wrote:
I think they are saying he's overconfident.
So why don't "they" plainly say that?
That wouldn't sell as many ad spots.
Do your part to combat global warming.
Eat a cow.
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#12 2008-08-04 10:03 pm
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Re: Breaking! Obama "too presidential" to win?
Farmerkev wrote:
iBubba wrote:
Farmerkev wrote:
I think they are saying he's overconfident.
So why don't "they" plainly say that?
That wouldn't sell as many ad spots.
I'm laughing my ass off. You got a point, there, kev.
"Hell, I'm sure Og had some cool way of banging two rocks together, until he took himself too seriously."
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#13 2008-08-05 12:29 am
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Re: Breaking! Obama "too presidential" to win?
Farmerkev wrote:
iBubba wrote:
Farmerkev wrote:
I think they are saying he's overconfident.
So why don't "they" plainly say that?
That wouldn't sell as many ad spots.
Well, that and there's really nothing wrong with being confident.
I mean, let's face it - anybody running for president has already gone on record as saying that out of 300 million people they're the best for the job. Ego much?
"Now commences the process of cutting off the head, which generally takes from an hour to an hour and a half by an expert workman with a sharp blade." -Reuben Delano, Wanderings and Adventures
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#14 2008-08-05 9:05 am
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Re: Breaking! Obama "too presidential" to win?
Well, this is a job where they'll name a candy bar after your daughter, after all....
Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.
Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.
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#15 2008-08-05 9:17 am
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Re: Breaking! Obama "too presidential" to win?
snickers?
"One thing we've learned is there's a difference between being disappointed and having madmen in authority."
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#16 2008-08-05 10:24 am
Re: Breaking! Obama "too presidential" to win?
This just in: sports fans also tend to dislike detecting smugness in their teams opponents!
"Live with your head in the lion's mouth. I want you to overcome 'em with yeses, undermine 'em with grins, agree 'em to death and destruction, let 'em swoller you till they vomit or bust wide open." -Ralph Ellison
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#17 2008-08-05 10:36 am
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Re: Breaking! Obama "too presidential" to win?
user wrote:
Well, this is a job where they'll name a candy bar after your daughter, after all....
"Now commences the process of cutting off the head, which generally takes from an hour to an hour and a half by an expert workman with a sharp blade." -Reuben Delano, Wanderings and Adventures
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#19 2008-08-05 10:55 am
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Re: Breaking! Obama "too presidential" to win?
Farmerkev wrote:
iBubba wrote:
Farmerkev wrote:
I think they are saying he's overconfident.
So why don't "they" plainly say that?
That wouldn't sell as many ad spots.

Its the truth.
I could bore you with a philosophical tirade about freedom and tyranny, or try and explain to you what new horizons are suddenly open to me, but I doubt you would understand and if you did it might frighten you. That amuses me.
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#20 2008-08-05 12:29 pm
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It's a shame that Americans would never vote for a Presidential candidate who seemed overconfident.
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#21 2008-08-05 11:31 pm
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Re: Breaking! Obama "too presidential" to win?
matt wrote:
It's a shame that Americans would never vote for a Presidential candidate who seemed overconfident.
Of course not, we have proven that we are looking for the mentally retarded candidate who we think would make a good drinking buddy.
So, lets forget all this foreign, domestic, economic, and energy policy crap and get to the real question - which candidate looks most at home in a seedy bar chugging a Bud lite with one hand, while sucking down stale pretzels with the other?
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