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sturner wrote:

No. You'd need to use java or a scripting language.

Fixed that for ya

Java is OOP!

But like he said, you need something controller-level (a program) which saves your entries to a database and then renders said data to a webpage, like a servlet to pull the data from am html form and another to produce the page with an html table containing what you entered.

Other languages (probably with easier learning curves) can do it, too, I'm just tossing out an example.

Last edited by Antonio (2008-08-05 1:45 pm)

Antonio wrote:

sturner wrote:

No. You'd need to use java or a scripting language.

Fixed that for ya

Java is OOP!

But like he said, you need something controller-level (a program) which saves your entries to a database and then renders said data to a webpage, like a servlet to pull the data from am html form and another to produce the page with an html table containing what you entered.

Other languages (probably with easier learning curves) can do it, too, I'm just tossing out an example.

Thanks for unnecessarily riddling that post with buzzwords.

Object Oriented Programming, while quite the fashionable term and even sexier abbreviation, is completely irrelevant when differentiating a scripting language from a programming language.  Further, there are other programming languages beyond Java so the solutions aren't "Java or a scripting language", but rather, Java or other server-side language capable of evaluating the logic.  So your "fix" isn't a fix at all, it's an elucidation of ignorance.

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registered_user wrote:

Object Oriented Programming, while quite the fashionable term and even sexier abbreviation, is completely irrelevant when differentiating a scripting language from a programming language.  Further, there are other programming languages beyond Java so the solutions aren't "Java or a scripting language", but rather, Java or other server-side language capable of evaluating the logic.  So your "fix" isn't a fix at all, it's an elucidation of ignorance.

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What?
I'll add to what Sturner said by quoting myself:

Antonio wrote:

Other languages (probably with easier learning curves) can do it, too, I'm just tossing out an example.

And "Java or a scripting language" is quite dead on, as PHP is probably the most popular option. Not all server-side languages are programming languages, some are scripting languages (such as PHP, or even server-side Javascript).

As for it ''not being a fix but an elucidation of ignorance", I'll take that as your desperate attempt at a flame and leave you with it. Your statement is an elucidation of ignorance all its own. It makes no sense, not even as a cheap attack.

Why is it when someone comes up with something that is intelligent and will work, there are always one or two who will come in and flame them? Trolls. What is this territorial BS about? Hell, I've even been around these forums as long as anyone else has (I changed my user name just a  few years back). Not that it should make a difference. You're not the only web developers and programmers on the internet, and certainly not the only ones coming up with solutions to problems, so get over yourselves a little. Even if just a little.

(Edit: Added to the above statement -half of you don't even have properly or fully-functioning websites, so you probably shouldn't be so damn critical of anyone else right now).

The flame wars online are pretty well done, aside from the trolls. Most people are tired of them.

And come up with your own closing signature. Alien's been using that for nearly as long as he's been here.

FINALLY, as Sturner mentioned, Java's very well known. It's easier to explain a concept using a language which is very well known. Personally, I'd rather use it than PHP, and use it pretty often -two more reasons why I used it here. Not that I should really have to explain that, but I did, anyhow. For those of you who will obviously pick if I won't

Last edited by Antonio (2008-08-16 2:36 pm)

Antonio wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Antonio wrote:

Fixed that for ya

Java is OOP!

But like he said, you need something controller-level (a program) which saves your entries to a database and then renders said data to a webpage, like a servlet to pull the data from am html form and another to produce the page with an html table containing what you entered.

Other languages (probably with easier learning curves) can do it, too, I'm just tossing out an example.

Thanks for unnecessarily riddling that post with buzzwords.

What buzzwords? Those are standard terms for the technologies used, and fairly spelled-out for a brief explanation, at that. 
No offense, but this is the 'programming and web dev' forum. If you don't understand common terms for common concepts and common programmatic solutions, then this isn't the forum for you.


BTW, great job waiting eight days to reply with something so completely petty.

Programs are not "controller-level," nor are server-side scripting technologies programs.  Controllers do not interact with databases.  Models do.  Servlets do not pull data from an HTML form, nor do they produce pages.

No offense, but this is the "Programming & Web Dev" forum.  If you don't understand common terms for common concepts and common programmatic solutions, then this isn't the forum for you.

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So many words, so little knowledge.

Tee hee.  So easy.  I don't have to justify my unfinished portfolio or my iWeb blog to you.  Though I do find your sanctimony amusing in light of your inability to alter filetype associations, or your assumption that an incorrect setting for an ad was intentional, or a total lack of understanding with respect to disabling the shuffle feature on an iPhone.  And you can't be that much of a professional if you develop only for Firefox.

Frankly, you sound like someone who got a degree in Information Systems from the University of Phoenix, and now thinks he knows everything there is to know about development.  You don't pull data from forms, nor do you serialize models into databases, nor is javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet an API, it is a class that is part of an API.

In any case, I'm done with this.  If you want to continue being a condescending schmuck without the knowledge level necessary to justify that arrogance, go right ahead.  I have no intention of wasting any more of my time on this elementary crap.

Daniel wrote:

In any case, I'm done with this.  If you want to continue being a condescending schmuck without the knowledge level necessary to justify that arrogance, go right ahead.  I have no intention of wasting any more of my time on this elementary crap.

I'm sorry, what was that, you say?

Daniel wrote:

Thanks for unnecessarily riddling that post with buzzwords.

Anyone who doesn't know how to do something so simple as pull form data to be written to a database table has nothing to say. You've failed to provide any explanation to reinforce any garbage you've thrown here.
That's why you produce broken garbage with iWeb.

Daniel wrote:

Tee hee.  So easy.  I don't have to justify my unfinished portfolio or my iWeb blog to you.  Though I do find your sanctimony amusing in light of your inability to alter filetype associations, or your assumption that an incorrect setting for an ad was intentional, or a total lack of understanding with respect to disabling the shuffle feature on an iPhone.  And you can't be that much of a professional if you develop only for Firefox.

Frankly, you sound like someone who got a degree in Information Systems from the University of Phoenix, and now thinks he knows everything there is to know about development.  You don't pull data from forms, nor do you serialize models into databases, nor is javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet an API, it is a class that is part of an API.

In any case, I'm done with this.  If you want to continue being a condescending schmuck without the knowledge level necessary to justify that arrogance, go right ahead.  I have no intention of wasting any more of my time on this elementary crap.

And what is wrong with University of Phoenix? They are accredited, like any other school.

Ice Cream Man wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Tee hee.  So easy.  I don't have to justify my unfinished portfolio or my iWeb blog to you.  Though I do find your sanctimony amusing in light of your inability to alter filetype associations, or your assumption that an incorrect setting for an ad was intentional, or a total lack of understanding with respect to disabling the shuffle feature on an iPhone.  And you can't be that much of a professional if you develop only for Firefox.

Frankly, you sound like someone who got a degree in Information Systems from the University of Phoenix, and now thinks he knows everything there is to know about development.  You don't pull data from forms, nor do you serialize models into databases, nor is javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet an API, it is a class that is part of an API.

In any case, I'm done with this.  If you want to continue being a condescending schmuck without the knowledge level necessary to justify that arrogance, go right ahead.  I have no intention of wasting any more of my time on this elementary crap.

And what is wrong with University of Phoenix? They are accredited, like any other school.

It's a for-profit online junk university that uses spam to sucker students into paying for a relatively worthless degree that devalues the degrees of those of us who went to a real university.

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