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Fricken missionaries.  I hate them all.

Pithecanthropus wrote:

Fricken missionaries.  I hate them all.

Do you personally know any? Or are you just painting a broad brush for a reaction?

Pithecanthropus wrote:

Hank Rearden wrote:

Pithecanthropus wrote:

Fricken missionaries.  I hate them all.

Do you personally know any? Or are you just painting a broad brush for a reaction?

Broad brush, to be honest.

I have no time for people who try to sell their religion to other people.  I find it offensive, in fact.

Too much eh?
What if we lowered it from 10% of your earnings to 7%?

Call - we can make a deal.

Pay up, or Guido will throw you in a lake of fire!

res was making a joke.

Pithecanthropus wrote:

Fricken missionaries.  I hate them all.

I don't necessarily hate them, but I hate their self righteousness.

I live in a depressed area, unemployment is the highest in the region, no industry to speak of, etc.  Lots of urban and rural poor.  It's a regular occurrence to read about some local pious prick who has traveled to Honduras or some such place to hand out bibles. 

If there was a god, I doubt he'd approve of this.

Tallgeese wrote:

Gatchaman wrote:

Pithecanthropus wrote:

Fricken missionaries.  I hate them all.

I don't necessarily hate them, but I hate their self righteousness.

I live in a depressed area, unemployment is the highest in the region, no industry to speak of, etc.  Lots of urban and rural poor.  It's a regular occurrence to read about some local pious prick who has traveled to Honduras or some such place to hand out bibles. 

If there was a god, I doubt he'd approve of this.

Approve of what?

Ignoring the poverty in their own back yard while trying to buy their way into heaven through "good deeds" that are more self serving than anything else.

Gatchaman wrote:

Tallgeese wrote:

Gatchaman wrote:

I don't necessarily hate them, but I hate their self righteousness.

I live in a depressed area, unemployment is the highest in the region, no industry to speak of, etc.  Lots of urban and rural poor.  It's a regular occurrence to read about some local pious prick who has traveled to Honduras or some such place to hand out bibles. 

If there was a god, I doubt he'd approve of this.

Approve of what?

Ignoring the poverty in their own back yard while trying to buy their way into heaven through "good deeds" that are more self serving than anything else.

While we have poor people living in poverty, our poverty is postively opulent compared to many other countries poverty. And the churches in this coutry spend much of their time and effort on outreach to poor people in this country as well.

Hank Rearden wrote:

Well, the one missionary that I know well spends all of her time delivering babies in difficult pregnancies, back in the bush of western Africa. She's generally so busy helping desperate people that she wouldn't have time to proselytize, even if she wanted to.

So, that's why I find...

Pithecanthropus wrote:

Fricken missionaries.  I hate them all.

...to be a very questionable statement.

I owned up to painting with a broad brush, why must you grind your point home?

I've also made my real point, and I will continue to stand by it:  I am offended by people who sell their religion to others. 

If your friend suddenly got un-busy and started proselytizing, I would cease finding her work admirable.

So feeding, clothing, sheltering, educating, and healing are bad if religion is involved? Am I reading the critics right here, are there people who are actually saying that those who are living in a third-world hellhold to teach the poorest people in the world things about basic sanitation, bring them medicine, help them to survive are bad people doing bad things if they also bring their religion with them?

Please correct me if I'm wrong but that's what I'm reading from at least two posters here.

Tallgeese wrote:

So feeding, clothing, sheltering, educating, and healing are bad if religion is involved? Am I reading the critics right here, are there people who are actually saying that those who are living in a third-world hellhold to teach the poorest people in the world things about basic sanitation, bring them medicine, help them to survive are bad people doing bad things if they also bring their religion with them?

Please correct me if I'm wrong but that's what I'm reading from at least two posters here.

If you're helping people out because of your own religious conviction, more power to you, keep it up and all that.

If you're helping people out so that you can indoctrinate them into your religion, you're a jerk.

Or, as in the case of the story, you are helping people out so that you can line your own pockets you are not worth the meat and water that makes you up.

Last edited by Pithecanthropus (2008-08-23 9:26 am)

Tallgeese wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Tallgeese wrote:

It's rather silly to argue this based purely on "what I saw."  There is never any good that comes out of this argument:
_____ are bad because most of the _____ I met are bad.
Nuh-uh. ____ are good because most of the ____ I met are good.

That's a useful way of not acknowledging evil in he world. It's the freecat approach: everything's anecdotal.

That's a useful way of shifting your position from "most missionaries are bad" to "you're denying that there's evil in the world."

That was never my position. I said right from the outset that it was based on my own experience.

ShnickyShnack wrote:

I hate what missionaries have done to African countries (or at least the African countries I've been to).

ShnickyShnack wrote:

The vast majority, that I've met, however (and of course it's purely anecdotal)

But hey, thanks for playing.

Last edited by ShnickyShnack (2008-08-24 8:19 pm)