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#51 2008-09-12 11:44 pm

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Re: Microsoft fights back against "Get a Mac" with... Jerry Seinfeld?

Trainwreck?

Seriously though, are they trying to mock the general public? This seems to be akin to Apple's infamous 'Corporate Lemmings' ad.

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#52 2008-09-13 2:13 am

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Re: Microsoft fights back against "Get a Mac" with... Jerry Seinfeld?

They're trying to say "We give, we know our OS is confusing to our users, but you have to use it. We're Windows! What else you gonna use? Here's what we're gonna do. We'll try to make it easier to use in the future. We won't tell you when or what exactly what we're gonna do, but it'll be better than that alternative, so don't switch to it. Stick around just a little longer. For now just watch and try to interpret these entertaining, yet confusing and enigmatic Seinfeld mini-episodes starring our former CEO. Remember him? He guest starred on an episode of Frasier once to promote our previous OS. You remember Frasier? It was that other show on NBC that wasn't called "Friends". BTW, don't switch back to XP. C'mon, please give Vista another try. You'll love it eventually. We moved stuff around and made it look all pretty and shiny. You just have to get used to it. Keep the faith."

Or something like that.


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#53 2008-09-18 5:15 am

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Re: Microsoft fights back against "Get a Mac" with... Jerry Seinfeld?

Looks like they're gone!

Thank goodness!


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#54 2008-09-18 5:26 am

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Re: Microsoft fights back against "Get a Mac" with... Jerry Seinfeld?

Can I haz them in HD for posterity? big_smile


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#55 2008-09-18 10:06 am

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Re: Microsoft fights back against "Get a Mac" with... Jerry Seinfeld?

And the winner for the best comment goes to pepelicious with:

pepelicious wrote:

I don't know anyone who specifically goes and buys an Xbox or Zune because they think Microsoft is a rad company. It just comes in your box. That didn't come out right..

Let's all give him a nice round of applause!

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#56 2008-09-18 3:54 pm

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Re: Microsoft fights back against "Get a Mac" with... Jerry Seinfeld?

reece_james wrote:

Looks like they're gone!

Thank goodness!

Heh, that was short-lived...


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#57 2008-09-18 5:42 pm

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Re: Microsoft fights back against "Get a Mac" with... Jerry Seinfeld?

that second one was confusing, and long.

I was expecting a lot more after that first ad.

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#58 2008-09-19 1:48 am

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Re: Microsoft fights back against "Get a Mac" with... Jerry Seinfeld?

One "I turn no 2 into energy."
Two "You got a problem with that?"
Three "I'm a PC and I wear...headband."

Comparing employees to cattle, portraying a PC user as a illegal graffitier and generally just plain obnoxious. MS really should have spent more on these ads.

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#59 2008-09-19 3:13 am

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Re: Microsoft fights back against "Get a Mac" with... Jerry Seinfeld?

Saying, "I've been turned into a stereotype" is pretty heavy-handed.

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#60 2008-09-19 3:24 am

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Re: Microsoft fights back against "Get a Mac" with... Jerry Seinfeld?

The long version of the family ad actually comes close to explaining a purpose. Odd.


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#61 2008-09-19 2:59 pm

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Re: Microsoft fights back against "Get a Mac" with... Jerry Seinfeld?

And now Microsoft is (re?)introducing the "I'm a PC" ads with a Hodgeman look-alike.


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#62 2008-09-19 3:03 pm

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Re: Microsoft fights back against "Get a Mac" with... Jerry Seinfeld?

I like the new "I'm a PC" ads, a good response to Apple.


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#63 2008-09-19 5:31 pm

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Re: Microsoft fights back against "Get a Mac" with... Jerry Seinfeld?

Life Without Walls... so where the heck do i put my windows?

It doesn't work really. If I were a Windows user, the Get a Mac ads would intrigue me because they show what it does and talk about things a lot of Windows users have dealt with. But as a Mac user, this doesn't really make me want to switch to Windows. It doesn't (Once again) even mention Windows. just "PC"'s which is ambiguous since a Mac is a PC too. These ads don't really show me anything that would convince me to switch. Isn't that what an ad is supposed to do?


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#64 2008-09-19 5:43 pm

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Re: Microsoft fights back against "Get a Mac" with... Jerry Seinfeld?

Jasoco wrote:

As a Mac user, this doesn't really make me want to switch to Windows.

That's a good point. Who is this ad aimed at? It obviously isn't the Mac Users. Are they just preaching to the converted in an attempt to big note themselves.


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#65 2008-09-19 5:59 pm

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Re: Microsoft fights back against "Get a Mac" with... Jerry Seinfeld?

They're trying to keep potential switchers from switching. But it doesn't really make a big attempt except at trying to destroy the stereotype.

Technically the Mac vs. PC commercials are wrong too. PC is a Personal Computer. It should technically be I'm OS X and I'm Windows". But then it isn't clever.

I still think the commercials for any OS should show what the OS does. At least Apple kind of says what it does. Like the Time Machine commercial. Or pretty much all of them. But they need videos of the feature in action to really work. Then let Microsoft do their own.

"We have Time Machine, and here's how it works. Connect a HD, click Yes and let it do its business. Simple as that. It keeps browsable backups of all your files so if you ever change one or delete one, you can go back and restore it."


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#66 2008-09-21 7:50 am

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Re: Microsoft fights back against "Get a Mac" with... Jerry Seinfeld?

I must say that I'm really impressed with the new "I'm a PC" commercials. I didn't expect too much from them and was surprised. I didn't think that new advertising company was gonna do much good for MS but now I see why they are so successful.

I think it's a great slap in the face of the "I'm a Mac" ads. I feel like it says "Hey, we're all PC's. Get over yourself Mac." I think that Apple will look childish now if they run anymore "I'm a Mac" ads.

I think they have effectively shut down the "I'm a Mac" ads.


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#67 2008-09-21 9:15 am

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Re: Microsoft fights back against "Get a Mac" with... Jerry Seinfeld?

The thing is the "Get a Mac" ads work on the foundation of anthropomorphizing the system themselves, not the users, as the "I'm a PC" ads insist, not that a lot of user will get the distinction. I sure someone could come up with a couple basic ideas for a "Get a Mac" that shows the difference in a way that negates the "I'm a PC" by showing that no those people are not a PC but rather PC users in such a way that you'd have to be deaf, blind, or completely stupid to understand.

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#68 2008-09-21 9:48 am

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Re: Microsoft fights back against "Get a Mac" with... Jerry Seinfeld?

Hi, I'm Trent Reznor from Nine Inch Nails, and I'm a Mac.

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#69 2008-09-21 9:49 am

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#70 2008-09-21 3:22 pm

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Re: Microsoft fights back against "Get a Mac" with... Jerry Seinfeld?

This says everything you have to say about it:

http://daringfireball.net/2008/09/digging_deeper

The high concept of Apple’s long-running “Get a Mac” TV campaign is that the characters portrayed by John Hodgman and Justin Long are personified computers. It’s right there in the opening lines of every ad in the series: “Hello, I’m a Mac.” “And I’m a PC.” Hodgman is not “Windows”; Long is not Mac OS X. They are not representative or average PC/Mac users. They are computers.

They’re not dressed as computers, they’re dressed as people. It’s postmodernism taken to a very silly and profoundly unserious commercial end.

But the concept reflects the actual business that Apple is in. Apple does not sell operating systems. They sell computers. Microsoft does not sell computers; they sell operating systems. (Apple’s boxed $129 versions of Mac OS X are just upgrades; they only work on computers that Apple has already sold.) Apple and Microsoft are undeniably engaged in one of the longest running and most interesting rivalries in business history, but it is very odd in that it is an orthogonal rivalry. Apple’s direct competition isn’t Microsoft but instead PC makers who sell computers running Windows.

This is not a minor semantic point. There is no argument that the single most distinguishing difference between a Mac and a PC is the OS. The genius in the conceit of Apple’s ads is that they acknowledge this without making Windows the target. They do so by diminishing Windows. Windows is just one element of what it is that makes PC (the character) who he is. The ads are neutral, sometimes even deferential, towards Microsoft. Vista is mocked, but several of the spots have emphasized how Microsoft Office works just great on a Mac. In at least one of the ads, Long’s Mac character even makes it a point that he can run Windows just as well as PC can, via Boot Camp.

The framing of Apple’s ads is not about either/or. Not a choice between two rival products, like Democrat/Republican, Chevy/Ford, Coke/Pepsi. The framing instead is special vs. regular. Not Coke vs. Pepsi but Coke vs. “soda”.

Windows is not the Mac’s rival or competitor. It is the omnipresent homogenizer that weighs PC down.

It doesn’t matter whether that is actually true. The point is that this is the role Apple has reduced Windows to in this advertising campaign. Windows is regular. The default. The norm. Mac OS X and the software that runs on it is special. It is something that the Mac can never lose and which the PC can never have.

And so what makes Microsoft’s new “I’m a PC” commercials so jaw-droppingly bad is that they’re not countering Apple’s message, but instead they’re reinforcing it. That the spots themselves jump between dozens of different people who “are” PCs, that the spots make a point of emphasizing that there are a billion Windows-running PCs worldwide, this only emphasizes that “PC” is not a brand name but a generic.

Microsoft’s new ads emphasize the same message as Apple’s: that the Mac is the one and only brand-name computer in the world.


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#71 2008-09-24 10:53 pm

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Re: Microsoft fights back against "Get a Mac" with... Jerry Seinfeld?

Did you guys see that Mac's were used to make those "I'm a PC" ads?

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It's not surprising - the Mac is the industry standard in publishing. But, it's still funny and a bit embarrassing for Microsoft.  tongue

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#72 2008-09-25 1:16 am

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Re: Microsoft fights back against "Get a Mac" with... Jerry Seinfeld?

There's one thing I have to know. How can a PC have employees?

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#73 2008-10-03 12:58 pm

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Re: Microsoft fights back against "Get a Mac" with... Jerry Seinfeld?

ScifiterX wrote:

There's one thing I have to know. How can a PC have employees?

You noticed that too.  This ruins any allusion that the people in the ads represent computers, making ads clumsy.

I think sra. Aguirre over at MacRumors forum(MacRumors.com News Discussion) in the "Microsoft's "I'm a PC" Ad Airs" thread on page 46,  summed it up completely and succinctly ,"No. They simply tell me what I already know. A LOT of people use and have a PC. yawn."

The concept of the ads was good, they could have blunted the Apple ads, but the execution of the ads poor.


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#74 2008-10-04 10:26 am

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Re: Microsoft fights back against "Get a Mac" with... Jerry Seinfeld?

I think the main problem with the ad is simply MS wants to sell vista, but is there anyone who really wants to run that instead of XP if they are using a "pc"

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#75 2008-10-06 9:20 pm

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