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Tallgeese wrote:

It may interest you to learn that many roads are available to slower vehicles including but not limited to bicycles, Vespas, and tractors.

But it wasn't a slower vehicle in this case??? Of course, if the vehicle can't go faster then it can't go faster. Daniel never said he wanted to drive over the speed limit, just the speed limit. This person was doing 20 under with a line of cars behind him or her.

It should be noted you can get a ticket for driving to slow. I think it's called obstructing traffic. 20 MPH below the speed limit is usually that point.

People that are being a bit too safe, too considerate, and just plain making up their own traffic laws. There's a reason we have driving laws, follow them. Especially in parking lots and yielding to oncoming traffic. I've seen morons almost ill people because they either yielded or said smurf it at the wrong time.

JUST FOLLOW THE smurfing LAWS AND QUIT BEING SO smurfing NICE!

ScifiterX wrote:

It should be noted you can get a ticket for driving to slow. I think it's called obstructing traffic. 20 MPH below the speed limit is usually that point.

Yes, but if you have your hazard lights on at or below that point, the cops in all likelihood won't give you a ticket.

D'Eyncourt wrote:

Daniel wrote:

There was a dolt in a huge (Dodge Ram 2500) truck doing 20 in a 40 yesterday.  Honking, screaming out the window, flashing my lights, and holding the horn for upwards of 30 seconds had no effect.  Fortunately the street I was turning off onto came up soon, because I was seconds away from dropping the car back into first and ramming him on purpose.

You don't smurfing drive twenty smurfing miles per hour in a goddamn 40 zone, especially not in front of me, when I'm already in a goddamn smurfy mood to begin with.  If you're looking for something and can't smurfing find it, smurfing pull the smurf over and let traffic past, you goddamn douchebag.

God, just thinking about that guy is making me furious all over again.

The roads don't exist solely for your benefit.

Red herring.

Tallgeese wrote:

It sure can be, but the law does allow low speed vehicles on most roads.

I'm also quite sure that far more collisions have been caused by unsafe high speeds than unsafe low speeds.

More strawmen.

bratboy wrote:

Daniel wrote:

zoees wrote:

What/who determines "the speed limit"? And how?

The police set it such that they maximize their profits.

You've said it before, and I still hope (but doubt) that you're joking.  The police do not set speed limits!



Good god man, surely you understand the legislative process better than that!

Where do you think the legislatures responsible for the speed limits get their data and recommendations?

Daniel wrote:

bratboy wrote:

Daniel wrote:

The police set it such that they maximize their profits.

You've said it before, and I still hope (but doubt) that you're joking.  The police do not set speed limits!



Good god man, surely you understand the legislative process better than that!

Where do you think the legislatures responsible for the speed limits get their data and recommendations?

From insurance companies, silly!

Daniel wrote:

Where do you think the legislatures responsible for the speed limits get their data and recommendations?

Umm, not the local traffic cops.

Texas:

A city may lower the state-mandated speed limit by performing an engineering and traffic
investigation and determining that the prima facie speed limit is unreasonable or unsafe
for that road. Id. § 545.353. If requested by the school, the city must hold a public
hearing at least once each calendar year to consider prima facie speed limits on a
highway in the city, including a state highway, near the school or institution of higher
education. Id. § 545.357.

Before lowering the speed limit, the city must follow the “Procedures for Establishing
Speed Zones,” which can be found at the Texas Department of Transportation’s Web site
at http://www.dot.state.tx.us/publications … c/szn.pdf, and consider width and
condition of the pavement, the usual traffic at the affected area, and other circumstances.
Id. The only instance in which a city may lower a speed limit without a traffic study, to
as low as 25 miles per hour, is if the road is in an urban district, is less than four lanes,
and is not a state highway. A city should contact the Texas Department of Transportation
before conducting a study or attempting to alter the speed limits on state highways within
the city limits. A Texas Transportation Commission order declaring a speed limit on a
part of a designated or marked route of the state highway system supersedes any
conflicting designated speed established by a city.

Tallgeese wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Tallgeese wrote:

It may interest you to learn that many roads are available to slower vehicles including but not limited to bicycles, Vespas, and tractors.

No such vehicles were on the road in front of this truck, which was loaded with precisely nothing at all and well-capable of doing more than 20 miles per hour.  Strawman.

So you stopped this guy and asked him why he was driving 20 MPH and he told you that he just felt like it?

I was not armed, so no, I wasn't going to risk confronting a truck driver.  I could clearly see all four wheels were inflated properly, the engine sounded fine through the exhaust, and there was no smoke being emitted from anywhere, nor were there any unhappy smells.  That car was fine mechanically and perfectly capable of operating at the speed limit.  Its driver was being a douche.  And so are you for splitting hairs like this and trying to somehow make this my fault.

Daniel wrote:

D'Eyncourt wrote:

Daniel wrote:

There was a dolt in a huge (Dodge Ram 2500) truck doing 20 in a 40 yesterday.  Honking, screaming out the window, flashing my lights, and holding the horn for upwards of 30 seconds had no effect.  Fortunately the street I was turning off onto came up soon, because I was seconds away from dropping the car back into first and ramming him on purpose.

You don't smurfing drive twenty smurfing miles per hour in a goddamn 40 zone, especially not in front of me, when I'm already in a goddamn smurfy mood to begin with.  If you're looking for something and can't smurfing find it, smurfing pull the smurf over and let traffic past, you goddamn douchebag.

God, just thinking about that guy is making me furious all over again.

The roads don't exist solely for your benefit.

Red herring.

You could not hold your temper for those endless 30 seconds before turning off that you would tell folks here that you would have acted with violence on this person? The other driver might have had a problem in driving, but I think that you have a problem with living.

D'Eyncourt wrote:

Daniel wrote:

D'Eyncourt wrote:

The roads don't exist solely for your benefit.

Red herring.

You could not hold your temper for those endless 30 seconds before turning off that you would tell folks here that you would have acted with violence on this person? The other driver might have had a problem in driving, but I think that you have a problem with living.

It was closer to five minutes, actually.  The horn was applied for a 30-second interval during that stretch and had no effect.

Same in the area where Daniel and I live but there are stretches here where cops aren't around to hear or see problems very often.