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So if a tree falls in the woods, and nobody gives a crap, did it fall on anybody?

Chickenhawk wrote:

So if a tree falls in the woods, and nobody gives a crap, did it fall on anybody?

yes

everlong205 wrote:

Chickenhawk wrote:

So if a tree falls in the woods, and nobody gives a crap, did it fall on anybody?

yes

But if it fell on somebody, wouldn't they give a crap?

isaly wrote:

everlong205 wrote:

Oh no? What a hypocritical disingeous, demagoging cur. I don't care that he makes such an attack. I just don't want to hear that he is not making such attacks.

everlong, demagogue is a noun.

So it should be "What a hypocritical curish demagogue."

But by your definition everthing McCain has said is a personal attack to. So we only have personal attacks.

Metacell wrote:

You would never have heard Bush/Rove calling Al Gore "Bill Clinton's third term!"

This may have been your joke, but people would have (and technically did) welcomed that

Metacell wrote:

You would never have heard Bush/Rove calling Al Gore "Bill Clinton's third term!"

I figured that was because everyone, dems and repubs alike, recognized that Al just didn't have the mojo to carry on Bill's legacy. I mean, seriously - can you imagine Gore wallowing around on the Oval Office rug with an intern?

Al was close, but no cigar.

Chickenhawk wrote:

everlong205 wrote:

Chickenhawk wrote:

So if a tree falls in the woods, and nobody gives a crap, did it fall on anybody?

yes

But if it fell on somebody, wouldn't they give a crap?

Maybe maybe not. they might be crushed and die right off the bat, dying before they had a chance to give a crap.

everlong205 wrote:

Chickenhawk wrote:

everlong205 wrote:

yes

But if it fell on somebody, wouldn't they give a crap?

Maybe maybe not. they might be crushed and die right off the bat, dying before they had a chance to give a crap.

You fail at logic.

We're talking epic fail too.

everlong205 wrote:

isaly wrote:

everlong205 wrote:

Oh no? What a hypocritical disingeous, demagoging cur. I don't care that he makes such an attack. I just don't want to hear that he is not making such attacks.

everlong, demagogue is a noun.

and a verb.

Vocabulary as well.

demagogue |ˈdeməˌgäg|
noun
a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument.
• (in ancient Greece and Rome) a leader or orator who espoused the cause of the common people.
DERIVATIVES
demagogic |ˌdeməˈgäjik; -ˈgägik; -ˈgōjik| |ˈˈdɛməˈˈgɑdʒɪk| |ˈˈdɛməˈˈgɑgɪk| |-ˈgɒgɪk| adjective
demagoguery |ˈdeməˌgägərē| |ˈdɛməˈgɑg(ə)ri| |ˈˈdɛməˈgɑg(ə)ri| |-ˈgɒg(ə)ri| noun
demagogy |ˈdeməˌgäjē; -ˌgōjē| |ˈdɛməˈgɑdʒi| |ˈdɛməˈgɑgi| noun
ORIGIN mid 17th cent.: from Greek dēmagōgos, from dēmos ‘the people’ + agōgos ‘leading’ (from agein ‘to lead’ ).

I'd say demagogue fits both candidates, just not necessarily the same way.

ScifiterX wrote:

everlong205 wrote:

isaly wrote:

everlong, demagogue is a noun.

and a verb.

Vocabulary as well.

demagogue |ˈdeməˌgäg|
noun
a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument.
• (in ancient Greece and Rome) a leader or orator who espoused the cause of the common people.
DERIVATIVES
demagogic |ˌdeməˈgäjik; -ˈgägik; -ˈgōjik| |ˈˈdɛməˈˈgɑdʒɪk| |ˈˈdɛməˈˈgɑgɪk| |-ˈgɒgɪk| adjective
demagoguery |ˈdeməˌgägərē| |ˈdɛməˈgɑg(ə)ri| |ˈˈdɛməˈgɑg(ə)ri| |-ˈgɒg(ə)ri| noun
demagogy |ˈdeməˌgäjē; -ˌgōjē| |ˈdɛməˈgɑdʒi| |ˈdɛməˈgɑgi| noun
ORIGIN mid 17th cent.: from Greek dēmagōgos, from dēmos ‘the people’ + agōgos ‘leading’ (from agein ‘to lead’ ).

dem·a·gogue     \ [dem-uh-gog, -gawg]  noun, verb, -gogued, -gogu·ing.
–noun
1.    a person, esp. an orator or political leader, who gains power and popularity by arousing the emotions, passions, and prejudices of the people.
2.    (in ancient times) a leader of the people.
–verb (used with object)
3.    to treat or manipulate (a political issue) in the manner of a demagogue; obscure or distort with emotionalism, prejudice, etc.
–verb (used without object)
4.    to speak or act like a demagogue.

everlong205 wrote:

ScifiterX wrote:

everlong205 wrote:

and a verb.

Vocabulary as well.

demagogue |ˈdeməˌgäg|
noun
a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument.
• (in ancient Greece and Rome) a leader or orator who espoused the cause of the common people.
DERIVATIVES
demagogic |ˌdeməˈgäjik; -ˈgägik; -ˈgōjik| |ˈˈdɛməˈˈgɑdʒɪk| |ˈˈdɛməˈˈgɑgɪk| |-ˈgɒgɪk| adjective
demagoguery |ˈdeməˌgägərē| |ˈdɛməˈgɑg(ə)ri| |ˈˈdɛməˈgɑg(ə)ri| |-ˈgɒg(ə)ri| noun
demagogy |ˈdeməˌgäjē; -ˌgōjē| |ˈdɛməˈgɑdʒi| |ˈdɛməˈgɑgi| noun
ORIGIN mid 17th cent.: from Greek dēmagōgos, from dēmos ‘the people’ + agōgos ‘leading’ (from agein ‘to lead’ ).

dem·a·gogue     \ [dem-uh-gog, -gawg]  noun, verb, -gogued, -gogu·ing.
–noun
1.    a person, esp. an orator or political leader, who gains power and popularity by arousing the emotions, passions, and prejudices of the people.
2.    (in ancient times) a leader of the people.
–verb (used with object)
3.    to treat or manipulate (a political issue) in the manner of a demagogue; obscure or distort with emotionalism, prejudice, etc.
–verb (used without object)
4.    to speak or act like a demagogue.

Fair enough, however, you forgot this footnote...

Usage Note: Among the nouns that the Usage Panel is loath to see used as a verb is demagogue, meaning "to speak about something in the manner of a demagogue." Ninety-four percent reject it in the sentence The President will demagogue Medicare, unwilling to acknowledge that fundamental reforms need to be made. Resistance to the use of traditional nouns as verbs is sometimes strong, especially when the novel usages are associated with business or bureaucratic jargon.

And to call Obama a demagogue is kind of disingenuous, given that all mr everlong does is quote the talking points of demagogues himself.