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#1 2008-08-29 1:04 pm

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Comcast announces bandwidth cap

ISP giant Comcast announced an official, 250 GB usage cap for its subscribers Thursday, which it plans to deploy October 1.

"250 GB/month is an extremely large amount of data," reads its official release, "much more than a typical residential customer uses on a monthly basis."

The "median" usage per customer is within 2 - 3 gigabytes per month, says Comcast. In order to exceed the data cap, a customer would have to send more than 50 million e-mails, download more than 62,000 songs, or watch more than 125 standard-definition, 2 GB movies per month.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=12812


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#2 2008-08-29 1:48 pm

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Re: Comcast announces bandwidth cap

As stupid as caps are that one is slightly more reasonable than some of them. Still glad I don't have Comcast.

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#3 2008-08-29 1:54 pm

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Re: Comcast announces bandwidth cap

I would have to agree that number is reasonably high


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#4 2008-08-29 2:33 pm

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I think that that number is perfectly fine.  I'm surprised the cap wasn't implemented years ago.  The cap is a necessary thing to ward off those bastards who like ruining things for everybody else.


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#5 2008-08-29 2:41 pm

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Re: Comcast announces bandwidth cap

It should be noted that in Japan the leading ISP has placed a cap of 30 GB uploads per day.

The simple fact is that US users cannot do things on the Internet because we accept generally lousy service.


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#6 2008-08-29 3:30 pm

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Great comcast, if people use so little internet anyway, why the hell would you cap the internet then?


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#7 2008-08-29 3:57 pm

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Re: Comcast announces bandwidth cap

Start the riots. This is wrong.

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#8 2008-08-29 4:16 pm

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Re: Comcast announces bandwidth cap

wow, I exceeded their median monthly usage in a day, according to the records my router keeps for me.
Good thing is that I'll have more than a month's worth of usage data by october 1, so I'll know if I need to change my habits.

I have records going back to august 20, when I upgraded my DDWRT firmware, and have downloaded 12 something gigabytes since then. Even for me, 250 gigs sounds like alot.

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#9 2008-08-29 4:51 pm

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Re: Comcast announces bandwidth cap

I don't know. You have to consider large families, large software updates, video (HD video, video podcasts, movies and TV shows from iTunes or XBox Live and the like), VOIP, online backup services such as Amazon S3 and Carbonite, and probably more. Combinations of those might add up.

Comcast isn't even providing bandwidth monitoring software, and once you go over the limit for two consecutive months, they cut you off from the Internet for a year. Now consider that they are often the only game in town when it comes to cable Internet, and that alternatives to cable are often much slower.

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#10 2008-08-29 5:23 pm

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Re: Comcast announces bandwidth cap

D'Eyncourt wrote:

It should be noted that in Japan the leading ISP has placed a cap of 30 GB uploads per day.

The simple fact is that US users cannot do things on the Internet because we accept generally lousy service.

Haha - Here in NZ, my monthly cap is 5GB and I am pretty sure that is one of the top of the line plans.

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#11 2008-08-29 5:29 pm

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Re: Comcast announces bandwidth cap

Macskeeball wrote:

Comcast isn't even providing bandwidth monitoring software, and once you go over the limit for two consecutive months, they cut you off from the Internet for a year. Now consider that they are often the only game in town when it comes to cable Internet, and that alternatives to cable are often much slower.

And there is the hook

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#12 2008-08-29 5:35 pm

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Let my people go!
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#13 2008-08-29 5:35 pm

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Re: Comcast announces bandwidth cap

"As part of our pre-existing policy, we will continue to contact the top users of our high-speed Internet service and ask them to curb their usage," Comcast said Thursday.

"If a customer uses more than 250 GB and is one of the top users of our service, he or she may be contacted by Comcast to notify them of excessive use," according to the AUP. "At that time, we'll tell them exactly how much data per month they had used. We know from experience the vast majority of customers we ask to curb usage do so voluntarily."

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2 … 185,00.asp


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#14 2008-08-29 5:49 pm

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Bat wrote:

"As part of our pre-existing policy, we will continue to contact the top users of our high-speed Internet service and ask them to curb their usage," Comcast said Thursday.

"If a customer uses more than 250 GB and is one of the top users of our service, he or she may be contacted by Comcast to notify them of excessive use," according to the AUP. "At that time, we'll tell them exactly how much data per month they had used. We know from experience the vast majority of customers we ask to curb usage do so voluntarily."

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2 … 185,00.asp

Hello. This is Comcast calling to let you know that you have one month to stop making off-site backups of your data, stop using your phone, and get rid of some of the people in your household. Failure to do so will result in the complete termination of your Internet service for one year. No, we do not give you the option to pay more for a higher cap, and we do not provide a way for you to routinely check your data usage on your own.


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#15 2008-08-29 6:03 pm

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Re: Comcast announces bandwidth cap

Groovy summary, Skee.

This is what happens when suits run a company instead of engineers intent on satisfying customers.

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#16 2008-08-29 6:22 pm

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Re: Comcast announces bandwidth cap

ukimalefu wrote:

Start the riots. This is wrong.

Probably because they were ordered to stop blocking torrent traffic


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#17 2008-08-29 6:25 pm

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Re: Comcast announces bandwidth cap

barrfid_od wrote:

ukimalefu wrote:

Start the riots. This is wrong.

Probably because they were ordered to stop blocking torrent traffic

Like they weren't doing that before.

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#18 2008-08-29 6:30 pm

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Re: Comcast announces bandwidth cap

ukimalefu wrote:

barrfid_od wrote:

ukimalefu wrote:

Start the riots. This is wrong.

Probably because they were ordered to stop blocking torrent traffic

Like they weren't doing that before.

COMCAST HATES FREEDOM!

I know they were but they were ordered by the SEC (I think) to stop capping torrent traffic speed. They probably did the blanket size cap to get back.


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#19 2008-08-29 6:43 pm

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I don't now why everyone has their panties in a bunch about this. What are you guys uploading/downloading that you're upset about this cap?


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#20 2008-08-29 6:51 pm

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A season's worth of 720p video can reach 20 GB.

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#21 2008-08-29 6:59 pm

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justine wrote:

I don't now why everyone has their panties in a bunch about this. What are you guys uploading/downloading that you're upset about this cap?

In Japan people think nothing of posting a copy of their latest home movies (in HD!) so that gramma can see her grandchildren. In the US we don't even think of this being possible because of our caps.


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#22 2008-08-29 7:17 pm

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250 Gb is not a bad cap, you want ridiculous, try this one.

http://www.frontieronline.com/policies/residential_aup/

Customers may not resell High Speed Internet Access Service ("Service") without a legal and written agency agreement with Frontier. Customers may not retransmit the Service or make the Service available to anyone outside the premises (i.e., wi-fi or other methods of networking). Customers may not use the Service to host any type of commercial server. Customers must comply with all Frontier network, bandwidth, data storage and usage limitations. Frontier may suspend, terminate or apply additional charges to the Service if such usage exceeds a reasonable amount of usage. A reasonable amount of usage is defined as 5GB combined upload and download consumption during the course of a 30-day billing period. The Company has made no decision about potential charges for monthly usage in excess of 5GB.

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#23 2008-08-29 7:21 pm

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Re: Comcast announces bandwidth cap

I had internet service in Germany where pretty much all you can do is browse the net, because they shut off your internet for the next day if you exceed 750 MB down in a day.

250 GB a month is nothing compared to that.

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#24 2008-08-29 7:39 pm

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Re: Comcast announces bandwidth cap

D'Eyncourt wrote:

justine wrote:

I don't now why everyone has their panties in a bunch about this. What are you guys uploading/downloading that you're upset about this cap?

In Japan people think nothing of posting a copy of their latest home movies (in HD!) so that gramma can see her grandchildren. In the US we don't even think of this being possible because of our caps.

If gramma wants to see the grandkids, there are better options than that, like video chat. They can always mail a dvd.


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#25 2008-08-29 7:42 pm

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Re: Comcast announces bandwidth cap

At the time being 250 GB is somewhat reasonable for most regular cable customers but if they cap like that they need to provide means to track your usage and/or allow access to enterprise level solutions with larger or no caps for those whom need them rather than cutting off service.

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