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#1276 2008-10-12 10:07 pm

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Re: All about Governor Palin's problems

These bitch-whores didn't just createt the idea he's a muslim terrorist all by themselves.

It is, after all, his campaign. He's in charge.

So, in a sense, he already is dubya.


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#1277 2008-10-12 10:08 pm

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Re: All about Governor Palin's problems

Hey, did you know that Obama once trained to overthrow the US government?  It was on Fox News so it must be true.

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#1278 2008-10-13 11:39 am

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Re: All about Governor Palin's problems

Governor Palin's porn problem: Nalin' Paylin MNSFW (maybeNSFW)

EDIT: TOOK LONG ENOUGH!

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#1279 2008-10-13 3:19 pm

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Re: All about Governor Palin's problems

Now, for something completely different:

WaPo's Shaleigh Murray's Chat today:

Henly, Texas : I'm sure I'm among a tiny number of people who read most of the Palin investigator's actual report. I was struck not by the criminality (or lack thereof) of her actions, but by what a small person she seems to be. After all, carrying on a grudge solely for the sake of personal retribution for years after a divorce is much more "Jerry Springer" than "Meet the Press." Doesn't the report raise more of a character question than a legal question about Palin and her fitness for the second-highest office in the land?

washingtonpost.com: The Trail: Palin Talks to Alaska Reporters about Troopergate (washingtonpost.com, Oct. 12)

Shailagh Murray: But it's perfect fodder for the HBO series or Coen Bros. movie that will surely arise from all this.

Well, yes.

But, that begs the question on fitness.

The Empress Has No Clothes is not a sentence on the MSM keyboard.

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#1280 2008-10-14 3:58 pm

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Re: All about Governor Palin's problems

Another one

After  acknowledging "Hockey moms, soccer moms, baseball moms," Gov. Palin introduced Lee Greenwood.  Mr. Greenwood noted that the wrong song was playing. He then asked everyone to put their hands on their hearts and help him sing the National Anthem.

The sound crew then cued up the song the crowd expected Greenwood to perform, and he burst into his hit "God Bless the U.S.A."

1:40 p.m.

The press pool has arrived at Riverfront Sports. Gov. Palin should arrive shortly.

1:25 p.m.

Chris Hackett addressed the increasingly feisty crowd as they await the arrival of Gov. Palin.

Each time the Republican candidate for the seat in the 10th Congressional District mentioned Barack Obama the crowd booed loudly.

One man screamed "kill him!"

Supporters have been noted shouting “kill him,” “terrorist,” “off with his head” and other equally incendiary terms about Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama. Others have directly suggested Mr. Obama is a Muslim, which he is not, or a traitor. Some comments even drew rebuke from Republican presidential nominee John McCain.

Other than the lone man, there were no other such outbursts.

http://www.thetimes-tribune.com/article … 223377.txt

h/t TPM
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpoints … a_kill.php


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#1281 2008-10-14 4:30 pm

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Re: All about Governor Palin's problems

Heh:

"America just can't afford another big spender in the White House," [Palin] said.


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#1282 2008-10-14 8:47 pm

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Re: All about Governor Palin's problems

When McCain says he's going to reduce spending, why doesn't anyone ask him if that includes one of the largest areas of spending: the Iraq War?


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#1283 2008-10-14 8:50 pm

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Re: All about Governor Palin's problems

Actually, he specifically said that he's going to freeze all non-military spending.


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#1284 2008-10-14 9:47 pm

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Re: All about Governor Palin's problems

Meanwhile on Planet Reality, we like our infrastructure maintenance, our disaster assistance, our civil protection, and our education.

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#1285 2008-10-14 10:01 pm

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Re: All about Governor Palin's problems

Guess we need to re-join.


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#1286 2008-10-14 10:06 pm

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Re: All about Governor Palin's problems

ScifiterX wrote:

Meanwhile on Planet Reality, we like our infrastructure maintenance, our disaster assistance, our civil protection, and our education.

Sounds like a job for your state and local governments.


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#1287 2008-10-14 10:09 pm

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Re: All about Governor Palin's problems

Well currently we have them but their competence is questionable.

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#1288 2008-10-14 10:09 pm

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Re: All about Governor Palin's problems

Yes it would sound like it. However, interstate highways are a federal mandate. Disaster assistance is as wel once it moves past local resources. Civil protection is still under local control. Education,... HA. Right. No child left behind pretty much destroyed the last vestiges of that.


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#1289 2008-10-14 10:22 pm

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Re: All about Governor Palin's problems

sturner wrote:

However, interstate highways are a federal mandate.

Which freezing non-military spending would violate.

Disaster assistance is as wel once it moves past local resources.

Which happens on a semiregular basis.

Civil protection is still under local control.

Save the FBI, Coast Guard, TSA...

Education,... HA. Right. No child left behind pretty much destroyed the last vestiges of that.

I did mention questionable competence.

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#1290 2008-10-14 10:28 pm

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Re: All about Governor Palin's problems

Freezing spending does not equal no spending you know.


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#1291 2008-10-14 10:35 pm

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Re: All about Governor Palin's problems

Freezing spending won't do it. I mean Jesus, the current crew has the national debt approaching 100% of GDP, a truly insane level (that's just my estimate, it's damn hard to keep track). If they want to avoid insolvency (or a Japan-style slow slide into the abyss) they're going to have to make some very steep cuts and run major surpluses for many years.


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#1292 2008-10-14 10:41 pm

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Re: All about Governor Palin's problems

Yes it does. Freezing the level of spending does not however. Doing that doesn't add up with other things he said he was gonna do either though. For instance, how can you invest in nuclear if you stop or don't increase spending. He is full of smurf on the freeze, full of smurf on the investments he promised, and/or incredibly out of touch with reality.

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#1293 2008-10-14 10:42 pm

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Re: All about Governor Palin's problems

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Freezing spending won't do it. I mean Jesus, the current crew has the national debt approaching 100% of GDP, a truly insane level (that's just my estimate, it's damn hard to keep track). If they want to avoid insolvency (or a Japan-style slow slide into the abyss) they're going to have to make some very steep cuts and run major surpluses for many years.

Probably. We really won't know how much they grew the debt for a few years so how much needs cut is up for debate. Simply freezing spending at current levels though will do more than you realize. 3% annual growth in programs (Bush was more like 11% average in domestic programs his first term) doubles the spending every 24 years.


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#1294 2008-10-14 10:44 pm

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Re: All about Governor Palin's problems

ScifiterX wrote:

Yes it does. Freezing the level of spending does not however. Doing that doesn't add up with other things he said he was gonna do either though. For instance, how can you invest in nuclear if you stop or don't increase spending. He is full of smurf on the freeze, full of smurf on the investments he promised, and/or incredibly out of touch with reality.

They are both full of smurf on their promises, the last 2 months changed what they can do.


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#1295 2008-10-14 10:46 pm

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Re: All about Governor Palin's problems

Farmerkev wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Freezing spending won't do it. I mean Jesus, the current crew has the national debt approaching 100% of GDP, a truly insane level (that's just my estimate, it's damn hard to keep track). If they want to avoid insolvency (or a Japan-style slow slide into the abyss) they're going to have to make some very steep cuts and run major surpluses for many years.

Probably. We really won't know how much they grew the debt for a few years so how much needs cut is up for debate. Simply freezing spending at current levels though will do more than you realize. 3% annual growth in programs (Bush was more like 11% average in domestic programs his first term) doubles the spending every 24 years.

Yet freezing spending won't help at this point because debt servicing will become a bigger and bigger item in the budget as long as the principal is untouched. If spending is frozen, then cuts will have to be made to accommodate the growing interest payments. I think a freeze on spending would have been a really useful idea -- back in 2001 or so. Now? Waste of time.

Previous governments tried to grow their way out of such crunches, but you folks are entering a major recession (and a potentially catastrophic one at that).


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#1296 2008-10-14 10:50 pm

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Re: All about Governor Palin's problems

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Farmerkev wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Freezing spending won't do it. I mean Jesus, the current crew has the national debt approaching 100% of GDP, a truly insane level (that's just my estimate, it's damn hard to keep track). If they want to avoid insolvency (or a Japan-style slow slide into the abyss) they're going to have to make some very steep cuts and run major surpluses for many years.

Probably. We really won't know how much they grew the debt for a few years so how much needs cut is up for debate. Simply freezing spending at current levels though will do more than you realize. 3% annual growth in programs (Bush was more like 11% average in domestic programs his first term) doubles the spending every 24 years.

Yet freezing spending won't help at this point because debt servicing will become a bigger and bigger item in the budget as long as the principal is untouched. If spending is frozen, then cuts will have to be made to accommodate the growing interest payments. I think a freeze on spending would have been a really useful idea -- back in 2001 or so. Now? Waste of time.

Previous governments tried to grow their way out of such crunches, but you folks are entering a major recession (and a potentially catastrophic one at that).

Everyone knows what has to happen.
The military gets cut dramatically, taxes go up just to pay for what we currently have and can't afford at current funding, and benefits get cut.
Won't Obama and the Dems just be loved when they do all that.


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#1297 2008-10-14 10:53 pm

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Re: All about Governor Palin's problems

Farmerkev wrote:

ScifiterX wrote:

Yes it does. Freezing the level of spending does not however. Doing that doesn't add up with other things he said he was gonna do either though. For instance, how can you invest in nuclear if you stop or don't increase spending. He is full of smurf on the freeze, full of smurf on the investments he promised, and/or incredibly out of touch with reality.

They are both full of smurf on their promises, the last 2 months changed what they can do.

That may be true but Obama's are more based on certain real business concepts like sometimes you have to invest money in certain necessities before a return is possible and you can't spend more then you bring in for extended periods. McCain's seem to be based in lets try a variation of what we tried before and see if it works this time. The former is risky but latter is insane.

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#1298 2008-10-14 10:53 pm

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Re: All about Governor Palin's problems

Gotta freeze spending NOW (because the liberals have arrived!)

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#1299 2008-10-14 10:55 pm

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Re: All about Governor Palin's problems


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#1300 2008-10-14 10:56 pm

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Re: All about Governor Palin's problems

Farmerkev wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Farmerkev wrote:


Probably. We really won't know how much they grew the debt for a few years so how much needs cut is up for debate. Simply freezing spending at current levels though will do more than you realize. 3% annual growth in programs (Bush was more like 11% average in domestic programs his first term) doubles the spending every 24 years.

Yet freezing spending won't help at this point because debt servicing will become a bigger and bigger item in the budget as long as the principal is untouched. If spending is frozen, then cuts will have to be made to accommodate the growing interest payments. I think a freeze on spending would have been a really useful idea -- back in 2001 or so. Now? Waste of time.

Previous governments tried to grow their way out of such crunches, but you folks are entering a major recession (and a potentially catastrophic one at that).

Everyone knows what has to happen.
The military gets cut dramatically, taxes go up just to pay for what we currently have and can't afford at current funding, and benefits get cut.
Won't Obama and the Dems just be loved when they do all that.

Or:

They could bring down a package of regulations to slash the amount of money spent on health care, take a piece of the savings and help their bottom line that way. Throw some targeted taxes into the mix, aimed at things like SUVs, water wastage or what have you.

I think they will be loved if they do that.


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