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#1 2008-09-08 3:13 pm
Yet another reason not to own an iPhone...
I just read the following, and I am amazed, but not in a good way:
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php? … 1194533575
Really!? The damned things come with the infernal auto-correct feature turned on by default, so your every attempt at typing anything will always be undermined by a mindless little machine second-guessing you and trying to complete your words before you even have a chance to type them, and...
and...
Apple doesn't freaking give you the option of turning that "feature" off?
What are they smoking in Cupertino and could I maybe purchase a quarter ounce?
I've now heard about just enough things missing from the iPhone that I've got to wonder, with some foreboding, what other features are absent or horribly flawed?
The camera's inability or unwillingness to capture video clips is not exactly something I could overlook, but hey, some phones don't even come with cameras at all, so this limitation, though disappointing, is not bizarre or shocking.
The inability to copy and paste, however... WOW! That one really took me by surprise when I learned of it. How can Apple possibly have any pretense of calling their product a "smart phone" or expect it to keep its cult following for the long haul it they keep trying to pass off very promising, but still unfinished beta-test handsets as actual iPhones?
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#2 2008-09-08 3:40 pm
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Re: Yet another reason not to own an iPhone...
It's only a problem if
a: you are poor speller .. in which case you probably should have it on
or
b: you type in multiple languages to which the article has a solution
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#3 2008-09-08 6:12 pm
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Re: Yet another reason not to own an iPhone...
Sorry Bren, but that's nothing new. People have been complaining about that since iPhone 1.0 came out.
The autocorrect, eh, so what. It doesn't bother me that they are trying to make it a little easier for us. My typing is terrible to begin with, I need the help.
The camera, have you seen any pics taken with that thing? It would be junk as a video camera anyway.
Now cut and paste, yeah that one's still a little baffling to me. I have heard, however, that there's some underlying code magic that would have to be done to actually enable that feature. It's not as simple as turning on a feature that was disabled by default. I think it's something to do with the original software only allowing one app to run at a time, and the fact that there is no clipboard to actually copy things to.
By the way, if you've ever actually used one then you would know it isn't an unfinished, beta handset. It's very smooth and polished, and a joy to use.
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#4 2008-09-12 11:56 am
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Have you ever actually used one, Bren? The people that complain about the lack of an actual keyboard have a good point, but that smurfy keyboard combined with the iPhone's auto correct and magical prediction engine makes for a kick-ass combination. You have to trust it. Just hit somewhere near the key you intend to hit and 99% of the time it knows exactly what you meant. Don't go back and correct. Just type away and then go back and see how you did when you're all done. It's pretty smurfing fabulous. I can type like a madman on my iPhone, certainly faster than any other phone I've ever used, and my spelling is now superb. Usually the first thing to go when I use a mobile keyboard are my apostrophes. The iPhone inserts them nicely. Periods? Capital letters? smurf em. Oh, but the iPhone will put those in as well. The keyboard setup is one of the greatest features of the iPhone and I would argue one of the greatest things to come to mobile devices evar.
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#5 2008-09-12 12:29 pm
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Re: Yet another reason not to own an iPhone...
pottymouth wrote:
Have you ever actually used one, Bren? The people that complain about the lack of an actual keyboard have a good point, but that smurfy keyboard combined with the iPhone's auto correct and magical prediction engine makes for a kick-ass combination. You have to trust it. Just hit somewhere near the key you intend to hit and 99% of the time it knows exactly what you meant. Don't go back and correct. Just type away and then go back and see how you did when you're all done. It's pretty smurfing fabulous. I can type like a madman on my iPhone, certainly faster than any other phone I've ever used, and my spelling is now superb. Usually the first thing to go when I use a mobile keyboard are my apostrophes. The iPhone inserts them nicely. Periods? Capital letters? smurf em. Oh, but the iPhone will put those in as well. The keyboard setup is one of the greatest features of the iPhone and I would argue one of the greatest things to come to mobile devices evar.
QFT ... well in my case it's the touch, but you get the idea.
I have a black 81xx and my best friend has a 88xx. It took me over a month to get used to conversing on the mine and I never got use to typing on the 88xx ... The touch on the other hand ... took all of 2 hours to get used to.
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#6 2008-09-12 6:44 pm
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Re: Yet another reason not to own an iPhone...
Yeah, the autocorrect can be a pain sometimes, like when I tried to find a video on Youtube that had a strange non spelling correct name, the iPhone refused to allow me to type the video name in 
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#7 2008-09-12 7:07 pm
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Yes, I've played around with iPhones at the AT&T stores long enough to discover all manner of maddening limitations which I haven't even mentioned. Of course, it doesn't help that the AT&T stores can't be trouble to have their demo iPhones actually connected to the Web half the time. But never-mind.
I just had such high hopes when Steve first dangled that carrot of a smart phone that would be running OS X. Suddenly my purchase of a replacement for my Nokia 6620 was on hold, pending Apple's glorious goodness.
Who the heck needs Symbian, I thought, if you can actually have OS X running on a phone?
What the Hell good does it do you to be running "OS X" if you can't do any of the things a computer geek would naturally want to do when using OS X?
Let's face it:
The iPhone is GAY!
Don't start with me. I mean "gay" the way the kids on South Park mean it when they say "gay."
Not homosexual gay.
I am the most strident advocate of gay rights that you'll ever meet, so don't start with me.
If the iPhone were gay in a leather daddy sorta way, that'd be an improvement.
But it's not.
It's gay like those horrible books on the Book-Tastic Bus that the South Park kids didn't want to read.
It's gay like if you were working at Bed Bath & Beyond and this guy right here was your boss:
Sorry.
It's just the truth, and the sooner we all stop being in denial about it, the better.
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#8 2008-09-12 7:16 pm
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That should be spelled "GHEY."
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#9 2008-09-12 8:47 pm
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I think bren is just being ghey ... the only thing that sux0rs about the ifonez is the carrier.
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#10 2008-09-13 7:33 am
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"Ghey?"
What is that, some kind "gangsta" lingo? Is that how you punks identify each other, with your iPhones and your Swatch watches and break dancing moves and Cabbage Patch dolls and assault rings and mood weapons? I'm wise to you, ya hear me? I know all about you Ricky Ricardo Rolls and your Riding Filthy...
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#11 2008-09-13 8:58 am
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iPhone kicks ass.
The keyboard takes some getting use to and copy and paste would be nice, but still, I truly loves my iPhone.
OS 2.1 had made it super stable and a lot faster in general as well.
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#12 2008-09-13 3:10 pm
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Auto Correct is awesome.
Also, it doesn't matter what language you type in, because it learns from you. A coworker uses his in both English, and Macedonian.
He said that at first, it wanted to correct his Macedonian words, but after telling it not to a few times, it adds them to its lexicon.
The only legitimate reason that I agree with for not owning an iPhone, is if you don't need a phone at all. The iPhone is quite simply the best phone that I have ever used.
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#13 2008-09-13 3:15 pm
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I wish I could afford and justify even the lowest end plans for it.
Just give me a prepaid 10 cent per minute version. I want to buy an iPhone from Net10. 
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#14 2008-09-13 3:22 pm
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Re: Yet another reason not to own an iPhone...
kamizuno wrote:
Yeah, the autocorrect can be a pain sometimes, like when I tried to find a video on Youtube that had a strange non spelling correct name, the iPhone refused to allow me to type the video name in
You do realize that you can tap the red 'x' to cancel the auto-correct, right? 
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#15 2008-09-13 7:59 pm
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It depends on which features are important to you. Some folks love their Blackburrys. The iPhone can't do MMS, can't do copy & paste and doesn't yet have the business apps (lots of games though). You can sync contacts, calendaring and mail with Exchange, but no tasks. Hell, you can't even get your To-Dos from Apple Mail, wtf? That's right, a smartphone with no task manager. But each of the major players has its downsides. I doubt Android will be 100% when it ships later this year. It just depends on which features are more important to you and which deficiencies you can best deal with.
For me, the biggest issue is the carrier. ATT sucks. Their claim of "more bars in more places" is only valid if you're talking worldwide as they can have roaming agreements with foreign carriers - so good if you travel to Europe a lot. But for the good ol' US, Sprint and Verizon have them beat hands down. I live near the base of a hill in a stucco building, which doesn't make for good GSM reception to begin with. The iPhone 3G is a little better, but still rather weak.
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#16 2008-09-13 9:50 pm
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Re: Yet another reason not to own an iPhone...
TheConfuzed1 wrote:
kamizuno wrote:
Yeah, the autocorrect can be a pain sometimes, like when I tried to find a video on Youtube that had a strange non spelling correct name, the iPhone refused to allow me to type the video name in
You do realize that you can tap the red 'x' to cancel the auto-correct, right?
Ahhh, good to know, I just tried it in the Apple store for 10 minutes, so I didn't get really familiar with the phone operation, that's really handy info
Thanks!!!
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#17 2008-09-13 10:49 pm
Re: Yet another reason not to own an iPhone...
The touch keyboard isn't the best. The flipside is that it does get out of the way when you're not using it, which is nice.
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#18 2008-09-14 11:04 am
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Re: Yet another reason not to own an iPhone...
robco wrote:
It depends on which features are important to you. Some folks love their Blackburrys. The iPhone can't do MMS, can't do copy & paste and doesn't yet have the business apps (lots of games though). You can sync contacts, calendaring and mail with Exchange, but no tasks. Hell, you can't even get your To-Dos from Apple Mail, wtf? That's right, a smartphone with no task manager. But each of the major players has its downsides. I doubt Android will be 100% when it ships later this year. It just depends on which features are more important to you and which deficiencies you can best deal with.
For me, the biggest issue is the carrier. ATT sucks. Their claim of "more bars in more places" is only valid if you're talking worldwide as they can have roaming agreements with foreign carriers - so good if you travel to Europe a lot. But for the good ol' US, Sprint and Verizon have them beat hands down. I live near the base of a hill in a stucco building, which doesn't make for good GSM reception to begin with. The iPhone 3G is a little better, but still rather weak.
Black berries do not send mms either. Well the pearl and the world edition from a year ago don't.
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#19 2008-09-14 7:06 pm
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@ kamizuno--
You're welcome. 
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#20 2008-09-22 12:41 pm
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I'm sorry, but the company that pioneered copy and paste ever since the Lisa and handwriting recognition with the Newton requires you to use a cludgy virtual keyboard.
Ghey, indeed.
Things that I'll be waiting for in a smartphone: nationwide 3G service, true handwriting recognition, true real time GPS with directions, true basic word processing functions, and a battery life longer than five freakin hours.
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#21 2008-09-22 12:43 pm
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Re: Yet another reason not to own an iPhone...
malber wrote:
true handwriting recognition,
Thats soooooo 90's
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#22 2008-09-22 12:50 pm
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Re: Yet another reason not to own an iPhone...
mrreet2001 wrote:
malber wrote:
true handwriting recognition,
Thats soooooo 90's
Yeah, and a QWERTY keyboard is soooo 19th century.
How much cooler would it be if you could write an e-mail with your fingertips rather than punching keys?
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#23 2008-09-22 12:55 pm
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Horrible ... people cant read what I write ... how do you expect a computer.
anywho I can type a lot faster than I can write.
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#24 2008-09-22 1:01 pm
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Re: Yet another reason not to own an iPhone...
mrreet2001 wrote:
Horrible ... people cant read what I write ... how do you expect a computer.
anywho I can type a lot faster than I can write.
The last versions of the Newton had it down nearly perfect. And I'm sure if they added handwriting recognition you'd still be able to revert back to your 19th century tech.
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#25 2008-09-22 1:08 pm
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i must agree with Bren on one thing: i hate the auto correct. i take liberties with spelling sometimes because I'M JUST THAT COOL and it's always trying to rein me in all Microsofty. lame.
words like yer, ur, prolly, wit, w/, hee ... all words i use frequently and all ruthlessly auto-corrected, sometimes multiple times before i remember to tap the suggestion to turn it off. it's very annoying when you have already finished typing the non-word and are trying to add punctuation after it using the sliding-finger shortcut; the iPhone keeps fixing the word before it will add the period, so you have to delete the punctuation AND word and do it over, which takes twice as long. grrr!
and yeah, why can't you turn it off? or why can't it at least learn my language after i make the same corrections more than a couple times?
anyway, cut and paste i SORELY NEED. i still think it's coming someday. the virtual keyboard i totally love. no video is not a big deal to me, although i wish it was a bit easier to do self-portraits, because i am one of those losers who take a good amount of self-portraits for facebook or whatever. i wish they'd hurry up with the Push notifications for applications -- weren't we supposed to get those in September?
one more thought on this topic: does anyone agree with Leslie's recent article positing that the iPod touch is just as good as -- if not totally better than -- the iPhone? it's been getting a ton of comments...
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