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#1 2008-09-10 10:00 pm

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Matt Damon rips Sarah Palin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6urw_PW … ature=user

You know, I normally don't have a lot of respect for actors who try to be intellectual, or go on about politics, but this was fairly interesting. Sure, he spices it up with some comedic lines, but quite frankly, I agree with him on several points.

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#2 2008-09-11 7:13 am

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Re: Matt Damon rips Sarah Palin

And who really gives a smurf what this guy thinks?


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#3 2008-09-11 7:35 am

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Re: Matt Damon rips Sarah Palin

I find this about as helpful as the fact that the "world wants obama."


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#4 2008-09-11 9:18 am

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Re: Matt Damon rips Sarah Palin

Oh come on, this is at least as interesting as half the crap dug up about Palin - and had the added benefit of being marginally entertaining. smile

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#5 2008-09-11 9:22 am

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Re: Matt Damon rips Sarah Palin

http://www.panicmanual.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/damon_team_america.jpg


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#6 2008-09-11 9:59 am

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Re: Matt Damon rips Sarah Palin

Daddyo wrote:

And who really gives a smurf what this guy thinks?

I could say the same thing about you, and yet day after day you post your opinions and I read them.  Take away the fact that it's Matt Damon and he's raising exactly the same concerns that I have.  But then, you probably don't give a smurf about what I think either.


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#7 2008-09-11 9:59 am

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Re: Matt Damon rips Sarah Palin


I could bore you with a philosophical tirade about freedom and tyranny, or try and explain to you what new horizons are suddenly open to me, but I doubt you would understand and if you did it might frighten you.  That amuses me.

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#8 2008-09-11 10:22 am

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Re: Matt Damon rips Sarah Palin

Daddyo wrote:

And who really gives a smurf what this guy thinks?

So does he have valid points, or it doesn't matter ?


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#9 2008-09-11 10:27 am

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Re: Matt Damon rips Sarah Palin

He's a smurfing ACTOR, what does he know about politics?


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Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.

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#10 2008-09-11 10:30 am

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Re: Matt Damon rips Sarah Palin

user wrote:

He's a smurfing ACTOR, what does he know about politics?

What did Reagan know? What does Mr. Schwarzenegger or Mr. Ventura know about politics?

His profession doesn't immediately disqualify him from having valid positions on the topic.

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#11 2008-09-11 10:31 am

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Re: Matt Damon rips Sarah Palin

My point exactly, esp as two of the three are celebrated Republicans.


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#12 2008-09-11 10:38 am

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Re: Matt Damon rips Sarah Palin

user wrote:

My point exactly, esp as two of the three are celebrated Republicans.

Careful, there. Reagan started as a Democrat, and turned into a Republican when the Democrats took a deep swerve into left field. He summed it up fairly well by saying he didn't leave the Democratic party, the Democratic left him. He proved it, too - when the normally Democratic unions put him office by a wide margin. (It didn't hurt that he was running against Carter...) I'd say his political views, at least early on, were fairly well thought out. It's a shame he really took up the Republican mantle in his second term, but such is life.

Schwarzenegger appears to have been a passably good Governor of CA. He has certainly done a better job than the previous clown, Davis. While I may not agree with him, it's clear that he is at least competent.

Even Ventura, who was a reform party candidate, did acceptably well - and he was a freaking professional wrestler ! (which makes him an actor, but I digress) While some of his positions are a bit out there (unicameral legislature?), most of his positions would be perfectly at home among the denizens of this forum.

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#13 2008-09-11 11:09 am

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Re: Matt Damon rips Sarah Palin

radarman wrote:

user wrote:

My point exactly, esp as two of the three are celebrated Republicans.

Careful, there. Reagan started as a Democrat, and turned into a Republican when the Democrats took a deep swerve into left field. He summed it up fairly well by saying he didn't leave the Democratic party, the Democratic left him. He proved it, too - when the normally Democratic unions put him office by a wide margin. (It didn't hurt that he was running against Carter...) I'd say his political views, at least early on, were fairly well thought out. It's a shame he really took up the Republican mantle in his second term, but such is life.

Are you sure that Reagan's switch to the Family Values Republican Party wasn't made after he got divorced ?

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#14 2008-09-11 12:27 pm

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Re: Matt Damon rips Sarah Palin

According to his son Mike - Ronald's change happened after the assassination attempt, when he because a true Christian instead of a lip service Christian.


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#15 2008-09-11 12:46 pm

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Re: Matt Damon rips Sarah Palin

radarman wrote:

Reagan started as a Democrat, and turned into a Republican when the Democrats took a deep swerve into left field. He summed it up fairly well by saying he didn't leave the Democratic party, the Democratic left him.

Ah ... the Reagan myth machine lives still. At what point did the Democratic Party embrace the values he espoused, and when did they abandon them? My personal view is that he simply started getting rich and suddenly realized the wonderful merit of trickle-down (aka smurf rolls downhill) economics.

He proved it, too - when the normally Democratic unions put him office by a wide margin. (It didn't hurt that he was running against Carter...) I'd say his political views, at least early on, were fairly well thought out. It's a shame he really took up the Republican mantle in his second term, but such is life.

People forget the incredibly bruising battle for the '76 Republican nomination between Reagan and Ford, which Ford just managed to win. Was Ford some kind of freaking liberal? About the only "liberal" notion he espoused was detente with the commies, carrying over the policies from Nixon. Reagan was all about the neocon beat-the-Russkies. And ironically the huge military buildup he got credit for actually started under that evil liberal Carter.

But of course in the end, right or left, but it seems most glaring with the righties, ideals evaporate once these people get into office. Ideology rarely has much bearing on how guys like Reagan govern, with the notable (and often tragic) exception of foreign policy.


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#16 2008-09-11 1:01 pm

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Re: Matt Damon rips Sarah Palin

resedit wrote:

According to his son Mike - Ronald's change happened after the assassination attempt, when he because a true Christian instead of a lip service Christian.

Umm... he was already President by then.

Unless you mean that he lied and manipulated to get into office and then didn't repent. brow


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#17 2008-09-11 1:39 pm

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Re: Matt Damon rips Sarah Palin

radarman wrote:

user wrote:

My point exactly, esp as two of the three are celebrated Republicans.

::a defense of actors turned politicians::

You're still missing my point. I'm not criticizing actors promoting their own political views, I'm criticizing those who condemn people like Matt while ignoring the luminaries of their own conservative world who held the same profession.

I'm agreeing with you, dummy. smile


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#18 2008-09-11 2:19 pm

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Re: Matt Damon rips Sarah Palin

Its interesting he is concerned Palin may have wanted to restrict books, because Al Gore's wife was head of the PMRC, so whats the big deal. Its funny to me as well that Lieberman was the other half of that ticket- a dude who was rumored to being McCain's running mate. I dont think dinosaurs have any material concern at all in politics, so thats just a jab at religious beliefs, and the other jabs are basically because she is too common to be in a position of power and authority, all of which seem to me to be hallmarks of a political process that serves to divide public opinion and round the masses up into simplistic ideologies while preserving the power base. Why doesnt he talk about why Obama got more financial support from Wall St than either Hillary OR McCain? Too complex an issue I suppose?

Dont get me wrong, I am not pro McCain or Palin at all. At all. Its just his talking points are predictable and expected, and essentially useless. If you are going to use your celebrity to broadcast your opinion louder than the rest of us slobs, why not tell us something we dont know or that hasnt been framed up for us by the rest of the media?


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#19 2008-09-11 2:21 pm

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Re: Matt Damon rips Sarah Palin

Unmmmm, by the definition of celebrity, Palin is a celebrity without the credentials to support her claim to being a viable V.P. candidate.


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#20 2008-09-11 2:22 pm

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Re: Matt Damon rips Sarah Palin

I still would like to know what she sees as the proper role of government today.


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#21 2008-09-11 2:29 pm

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Re: Matt Damon rips Sarah Palin

sturner wrote:

I still would like to know what she sees as the proper role of government today.

i'd like to see that definition from obama, mccain, and biden as well.


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#22 2008-09-11 3:21 pm

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Re: Matt Damon rips Sarah Palin

Once they stop calling each other names perhaps we will.


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#23 2008-09-11 3:23 pm

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Re: Matt Damon rips Sarah Palin

radarman wrote:

Schwarzenegger appears to have been a passably good Governor of CA. He has certainly done a better job than the previous clown, Davis. While I may not agree with him, it's clear that he is at least competent.

How can you substantiate such a claim?  California is in worse debt than when Arno took office and is currently having a huge budget crises.  He's just a talking status symbol, like Reagan.


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#24 2008-09-11 3:37 pm

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Re: Matt Damon rips Sarah Palin

sturner wrote:

Unmmmm, by the definition of celebrity, Palin is a celebrity without the credentials to support her claim to being a viable V.P. candidate.

Hello, circular logic called, they want you to know that they called.

Palin is a celebrity because she is a VP candidate.


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#25 2008-09-11 3:39 pm

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Re: Matt Damon rips Sarah Palin

My point is that her credentials are no better than Obama's. He has had much more exposure and his experience as a senator is of longer duration than her experience as a Govenor.

She still hasn't said anything of importance. All of her speeches have been sound bites.


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