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#1 2008-09-15 4:40 am

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Diamonds

Would anyone here not buy a diamond engagement ring because they are against the diamond mining and debeers industry?

Would anyone get a moissanite ring for that special person instead?


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#2 2008-09-15 5:25 am

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Re: Diamonds

My brother got a sapphire ring instead, although that might have been their wedding ring.

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#3 2008-09-15 5:52 am

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Re: Diamonds

I think anyone thinking of getting anything other then a diamond should have a talk with their intended fiancé before making a purchase.

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#4 2008-09-15 6:21 am

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Re: Diamonds

Donkey Butter wrote:

I think anyone thinking of getting anything other then a diamond should have a talk with their intended fiancé before making a purchase.

I have to agree. If she's expecting the real deal and fines out she got something manmade, it might not be pretty.

There are a lot of women that don't care what they get, but I'd bet there are a lot more that do. If they didn't, the jewelry business wouldn't be doing so well.

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#5 2008-09-15 7:20 am

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Re: Diamonds

A diamond is forever ... do you really want to look like an smurf forever.


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#6 2008-09-15 8:24 am

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Re: Diamonds

I agree with jerk face and justine. smile

Most of the newly-engaged women I know have/demand more input into the ring selection process than the person buying it.


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#7 2008-09-15 9:09 am

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Re: Diamonds

I would. And I wouldn't discuss it, neither. If the proposed fails to understand my viewpoint instantly and without it being mentioned, I'd obviously have picked the wrong one.

In fact, I would think I'd picked the wrong one if she wouldn't freak out over being offered an actual blood diamond.

.tsooJ


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#8 2008-09-15 9:19 am

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#9 2008-09-15 9:36 am

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Re: Diamonds

Give her a ring set with a vial of your own blood.

Kinda appropriate, anyway...


Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.

Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.

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#10 2008-09-15 12:27 pm

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Re: Diamonds

I proposed with a ring made of legos. No diamonds involved.


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#11 2008-09-15 12:46 pm

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Re: Diamonds

Or a cheap ring from a cracker back jox!

(obscure Firesign reference)


Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.

Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.

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#12 2008-09-15 12:56 pm

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Re: Diamonds

macnuke wrote:

http://www.brilliantearth.com/loosediam … swodDS6VDQ


then again, its canada tongue

I agree - see if you can source a diamond that came from a mine that wasn't operated by slaves.  It'll cost more, but you can rest easy knowing the poor soul who pulled that shiny rock out of the earth was paid a fair wage.  Diamonds from Canadian mines are almost certainly going to be guilt-free.

As for the diamond industry jacking up the price a thousand-fold, well, blame the market. wink


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#13 2008-09-15 1:04 pm

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I hear there are eco-tours or vacations I can take to a blood diamond mine where I can beat my own mine worker until he finds me a suitable diamond. I'd totally be into that.


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#14 2008-09-15 1:08 pm

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Re: Diamonds

If you've ever looked into the history behind the diamond engagement ring, you'd never buy one.  DeBeers invented that whole idea and as a result changed an entire culture.  In the past a simple, silver band was given upon engagement and traded for a gold band upon marriage.  DeBeers came along and changed all that.  It is, IMHO, the single most successful marketing campaign in the history of the world.

I will not buy diamonds.


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#15 2008-09-15 1:17 pm

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Re: Diamonds

My wife and I exchanged titanium bands and nothing else. Diamonds are too gaudy.

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#16 2008-09-15 1:50 pm

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Re: Diamonds

pottymouth wrote:

My wife and I exchanged titanium bands and nothing else. Diamonds are too gaudy.

Both of my wife's rings are titanium, and though they both have diamonds they're very small - not tacky at all.  My ring is made of tungsten carbide.


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#17 2008-09-15 4:38 pm

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Pithecanthropus wrote:

If you've ever looked into the history behind the diamond engagement ring, you'd never buy one.  DeBeers invented that whole idea and as a result changed an entire culture.  In the past a simple, silver band was given upon engagement and traded for a gold band upon marriage.  DeBeers came along and changed all that.  It is, IMHO, the single most successful marketing campaign in the history of the world.
[snip]

Read that story here.

Note that this article was written in 1982 but we have yet to see a disruption of the diamond market caused by artificial ones.


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#18 2008-09-15 5:34 pm

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Re: Diamonds

Pithecanthropus wrote:

If you've ever looked into the history behind the diamond engagement ring, you'd never buy one.  DeBeers invented that whole idea and as a result changed an entire culture.  In the past a simple, silver band was given upon engagement and traded for a gold band upon marriage.  DeBeers came along and changed all that.  It is, IMHO, the single most successful marketing campaign in the history of the world.

I will not buy diamonds.

Yep.  Those people are geniuses.  But what is there to do?  Not buying diamonds is fine, but you will be placing yourself in an interesting position.


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#19 2008-09-15 6:08 pm

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Re: Diamonds

If she wants a diamond, buy the diamond.


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#20 2008-09-15 10:09 pm

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Re: Diamonds

There are stones out there which are more precious and more stunning than a boring white diamond. The thing though, is that you can't get a different rock just for saving money. Some women might insist on the diamond still. In that case, you're stuck.


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#21 2008-09-15 11:07 pm

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Re: Diamonds

Alien wrote:

I would think I'd picked the wrong one if she wouldn't freak out over being offered an actual blood diamond.


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#22 2008-09-15 11:36 pm

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Re: Diamonds

Farmerkev wrote:

If she wants a diamond, buy the diamond.

Bitch, you take what I give you and you like it!


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#23 2008-09-16 1:13 am

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Re: Diamonds

If you have qualms about giving her a diamond and she has palpitations about not getting one...you two shouldn't be getting married!  It's the first sign of "social conscience vs. social climber."


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#24 2008-09-16 4:20 am

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Re: Diamonds

Chickenhawk wrote:

Some women might insist on the diamond still. In that case, you're stuck.

Stuck with the wrong woman, that is.

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#25 2008-09-16 7:03 am

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Re: Diamonds

Alien wrote:

Chickenhawk wrote:

Some women might insist on the diamond still. In that case, you're stuck.

Stuck with the wrong woman, that is.

.tsooJ

In my case, I certainly would have to agree.

Sounds way too much like the woman one of my cousins married, who threw the ring in her then to-be mother-in-law's face because she "wanted something new". Meanwhile, this ring was something crafted by my great grandfather, who was a master jeweler. Why anybody would do such a thing is beyond me.


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