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#26 2008-09-16 8:24 am
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Re: Diamonds
Chickenhawk wrote:
In my case, I certainly would have to agree.
Sounds way too much like the woman one of my cousins married, who threw the ring in her then to-be mother-in-law's face because she "wanted something new". Meanwhile, this ring was something crafted by my great grandfather, who was a master jeweler. Why anybody would do such a thing is beyond me.
Now that's just not cool.
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#27 2008-09-16 9:33 am
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Re: Diamonds
Alien wrote:
I would. And I wouldn't discuss it, neither. If the proposed fails to understand my viewpoint instantly and without it being mentioned, I'd obviously have picked the wrong one.
In fact, I would think I'd picked the wrong one if she wouldn't freak out over being offered an actual blood diamond.
.tsooJ
In case anyone is not clear on the difference, a "blood diamond" is a diamond sold by warring factions in African nations to fund their wars. This is different from the original post's mention of mining conditions and the DeBeers company monopoly.
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#28 2008-09-16 10:35 am
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Right, you can get diamonds with no blood involved. Unless you're counting the blood, sweat and tears of the poor bastard that has to make rings for needy, arrogant women.
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#29 2008-09-16 10:45 am
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So, basically, the distinction is purely whether the profits fund war, or the stockholders?
Not much of a difference, if you ask me.
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#30 2008-09-16 10:50 am
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Re: Diamonds
Alien wrote:
So, basically, the distinction is purely whether the profits fund war, or the stockholders?
Not much of a difference, if you ask me.
.tsooJ
It's a huge difference.
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#31 2008-09-16 10:53 am
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Re: Diamonds
Chickenhawk wrote:
Alien wrote:
Chickenhawk wrote:
Some women might insist on the diamond still. In that case, you're stuck.
Stuck with the wrong woman, that is.
.tsooJIn my case, I certainly would have to agree.
Sounds way too much like the woman one of my cousins married, who threw the ring in her then to-be mother-in-law's face because she "wanted something new". Meanwhile, this ring was something crafted by my great grandfather, who was a master jeweler. Why anybody would do such a thing is beyond me.
She bought into the whole DeBeers thing. DeBeers doesn't like heirloom jewelry, either. How can you make money on a hand-me-down?
My GF wants an engagement ring, but we've already talked about the diamond thing and she doesn't want one. Score one for Pith! 
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#32 2008-09-16 12:12 pm
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Re: Diamonds
Pithecanthropus wrote:
My GF wants an engagement ring, but we've already talked about the diamond thing and she doesn't want one. Score one for Pith!
so she said yes then 
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#33 2008-09-16 1:36 pm
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Re: Diamonds
mrreet2001 wrote:
Pithecanthropus wrote:
My GF wants an engagement ring, but we've already talked about the diamond thing and she doesn't want one. Score one for Pith!
so she said yes then
Not exactly, but she did tell me she wanted a ring. Details, details. 
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#34 2008-09-16 2:20 pm
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Re: Diamonds
mrreet2001 wrote:
Alien wrote:
So, basically, the distinction is purely whether the profits fund war, or the stockholders?
Not much of a difference, if you ask me.
.tsooJIt's a huge difference.
... ... ...
Turns off his blood apple... sits down on his blood couch to play blood xbox 360 on his blood TV
...drives blood car to get blood groceries...
He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis
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#35 2008-09-16 2:32 pm
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My GF doesn't want a diamond ring or any gold at all, which is cool by me. We've discussed it and tungsten and moldavite are our materials of choice.
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#36 2008-09-16 2:49 pm
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Aqua Man wrote:
My GF doesn't want a diamond ring or any gold at all, which is cool by me. We've discussed it and tungsten and moldavite are our materials of choice.
This is the beginning of a whole new luxury industry here. Custom lifetime mineral catalogs--matching fabric collection too!
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#37 2008-09-16 4:04 pm
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Re: Diamonds
Tallgeese wrote:
mrreet2001 wrote:
Alien wrote:
So, basically, the distinction is purely whether the profits fund war, or the stockholders?
Not much of a difference, if you ask me.
.tsooJIt's a huge difference.
... ... ...
Turns off his blood apple... sits down on his blood couch to play blood xbox 360 on his blood TV...drives blood car to get blood groceries...
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#38 2008-09-16 6:11 pm
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A bottle of Klingon Blood Wine would be nice 
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#39 2008-09-17 1:16 am
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Re: Diamonds
Pithecanthropus wrote:
mrreet2001 wrote:
Pithecanthropus wrote:
My GF wants an engagement ring, but we've already talked about the diamond thing and she doesn't want one. Score one for Pith!
so she said yes then
Not exactly, but she did tell me she wanted a ring. Details, details.
have you discussed an engagement cock-ring?
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#40 2008-09-17 6:08 am
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Thats for the honey moon ... and it's the blood cock ring
*note the blood is in reference to a previous joke. and not try to paint a gross mental picture.*
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#41 2008-09-17 8:27 am
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Robert B. wrote:
Pithecanthropus wrote:
mrreet2001 wrote:
so she said yes thenNot exactly, but she did tell me she wanted a ring. Details, details.
have you discussed an engagement cock-ring?
What makes you think his fiance has a cock?
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#42 2008-09-17 8:56 am
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Re: Diamonds
Pithecanthropus wrote:
mrreet2001 wrote:
Pithecanthropus wrote:
My GF wants an engagement ring, but we've already talked about the diamond thing and she doesn't want one. Score one for Pith!
so she said yes then
Not exactly, but she did tell me she wanted a ring. Details, details.
Women can be so difficult
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#43 2008-09-17 9:32 am
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Re: Diamonds
Alien wrote:
Robert B. wrote:
Pithecanthropus wrote:
Not exactly, but she did tell me she wanted a ring. Details, details.have you discussed an engagement cock-ring?
What makes you think his fiance has a cock?
.tsooJ
She has one, it's just attached to me.
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#44 2008-09-17 11:51 am
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Pithecanthropus wrote:
If you've ever looked into the history behind the diamond engagement ring, you'd never buy one. DeBeers invented that whole idea and as a result changed an entire culture. In the past a simple, silver band was given upon engagement and traded for a gold band upon marriage. DeBeers came along and changed all that. It is, IMHO, the single most successful marketing campaign in the history of the world.
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#45 2008-09-17 11:54 am
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Tallgeese wrote:
Alien wrote:
I would. And I wouldn't discuss it, neither. If the proposed fails to understand my viewpoint instantly and without it being mentioned, I'd obviously have picked the wrong one.
In fact, I would think I'd picked the wrong one if she wouldn't freak out over being offered an actual blood diamond.
.tsooJIn case anyone is not clear on the difference, a "blood diamond" is a diamond sold by warring factions in African nations to fund their wars. This is different from the original post's mention of mining conditions and the DeBeers company monopoly.
And then there are conflict diamonds, which are sold to fund DNA manipulations and satellites that shoot laser beams at the DMZ.
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#46 2008-09-17 12:01 pm
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"blood diamond (also called a converted diamond, conflict diamond, hot diamond or a war diamond) refers to a diamond mined in a war zone and sold to finance an insurgency, invading army's war efforts, or a warlord's activity, usually in Africa."
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#47 2008-09-17 12:51 pm
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Don't mind resedit--it's his attempt to be funny (I hope).
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#48 2008-09-17 5:09 pm
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Re: Diamonds
resedit wrote:
Pithecanthropus wrote:
If you've ever looked into the history behind the diamond engagement ring, you'd never buy one. DeBeers invented that whole idea and as a result changed an entire culture. In the past a simple, silver band was given upon engagement and traded for a gold band upon marriage. DeBeers came along and changed all that. It is, IMHO, the single most successful marketing campaign in the history of the world.
Santa Claus ...
But Santa Claus was a religious figure (St. Nick) who was turned into a commercial icon. Diamonds have no such Biblical/religious origins.
Grandfatherly advice: You can drink 'em pretty, but you can't drink 'em smart.
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#49 2008-09-17 6:41 pm
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Re: Diamonds
Pithecanthropus wrote:
resedit wrote:
Pithecanthropus wrote:
If you've ever looked into the history behind the diamond engagement ring, you'd never buy one. DeBeers invented that whole idea and as a result changed an entire culture. In the past a simple, silver band was given upon engagement and traded for a gold band upon marriage. DeBeers came along and changed all that. It is, IMHO, the single most successful marketing campaign in the history of the world.
Santa Claus ...
But Santa Claus was a religious figure (St. Nick) who was turned into a commercial icon. Diamonds have no such Biblical/religious origins.
And getting Christmas presents that cost less than 4-6 months of your current income don't get sneer at automatically by some people.
BOYCOTT SONY
"I think the question now is not whether you went to Vietnam or whether you didn't, whether you fought in the war or fought against the war. I think the only question is whether we can find a president smart enough never to make a mistake like that again"--Molly Ivins, way back in 1992
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#50 2008-09-18 9:41 am
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Re: Diamonds
Pithecanthropus wrote:
resedit wrote:
Pithecanthropus wrote:
If you've ever looked into the history behind the diamond engagement ring, you'd never buy one. DeBeers invented that whole idea and as a result changed an entire culture. In the past a simple, silver band was given upon engagement and traded for a gold band upon marriage. DeBeers came along and changed all that. It is, IMHO, the single most successful marketing campaign in the history of the world.
Santa Claus ...
But Santa Claus was a religious figure (St. Nick) who was turned into a commercial icon. Diamonds have no such Biblical/religious origins.
so when she says...
"OH MY GOD IT'S SO GORGEOUS !!!!"
or "
GODDAM YOU CHEAP smurf"
it's not religious?
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