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Well, at the least I'd say it was a tie. I got pretty tired of McCane claiming that Obama "doesn't understand" something.

Last edited by user (2008-09-26 9:39 pm)

Pat Buchanan thinks McCain won the debate, no question.

Fascinating.

user wrote:

Well, at the least I'd say it was a tie. I got pretty tired of McCane claiming that Obama "doesn't understand" something.

They both landed a few good blows, I don't know if there was an outright winner.
Obama by a slight margin is my opinion.

Both of them hurled hard-to-verify accusations at each other all night.

Farmerkev wrote:

There is the old line of reasoning that Obama was expected to mop the floor with McCain in a debate and didn't so McCain wins with his "better than expected" performance.
We'll probably hear that shortly from the talking heads.

That is a good point.

However, foreign policy is supposed to be McCain's strength.

I'd like to inform everyone (but especially both candidates) that the Republican Guard was Iraq's elite force. The Revolutionary Guard is Iranian.

Hank Rearden wrote:

bratboy wrote:

However, foreign policy is supposed to be McCain's strength.

And I think that, in general, he did better than Obama on that. Other than mispronouncing Achmadinamadinajabbadad's name.

I agree, I just don't believe that he did good enough (considering he's down in the polls and the next debate will be about the economy).

To be honest I thought they both performed extraordinarily well under constant well placed points against each other.  McCain started sounding a little petulant with his repeated "poopy pants hasn't seen the world" quips, but Obama also irritated me with his not answering a direct question just like every other politician.  On the other hand, both made their policy statements fairly well.  While I disagree with McCain on nearly almost every one of his policies, I'd have to concede that he makes a good case to anyone who chooses to side with him.

Really better than any presidential debate I've seen before.  Too bad they both have to stay within such narrow margins of defined positions when talking about international relations in order to be taken seriously by American neocolonial interests.

I thought it was boring but that's probably because it involved the candidates discussing their positions rather than spouting rhetoric for the whole time.

PBS FTW.

bratboy wrote:

Metacell wrote:

Really better than any presidential debate I've seen before.

I thought it was boring (but then I guess I'm comparing it to the numerous primary debates).

I'm sure the VP debate won't disappoint, though.

Well it was no Bush/Clinton, Bush/Gore, Bush/Kerry circus...neither candidate could really get away with hot-dogging cheap shots (McCain seemed to try pretty hard for it IMO) without risking major backfiring, so it was mostly just shadow-punching.  Not the most entertaining spectacle, but really, should our politics always be a mockery?

I was pretty surprised that he made his "I was never known as Miss Congeniality"  'joke' twice. I would think he'd stay away from that sort of allusion.

Obama's reference to ending the 'orgy of spending' was full of win.