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Tallgeese wrote:

I was pretty surprised that he made his "I was never known as Miss Congeniality"  'joke' twice. I would think he'd stay away from that sort of allusion.

Yes, that's quite sexist.

Tallgeese wrote:

OMG OMG OMG STOP THE PRESSES AND LOOK AT THIS
http://static.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/flagpin_0.jpg

I dont get it.

So, Obama's wearing a Muslim pin...

I might have missed it - did Obama tell McCane "glad you could make it"?

Tallgeese wrote:

MCCANE HATES AMERICA

Oh, snap. But you know Obama prolly burned his after the debate.

Farmerkev wrote:

user wrote:

Well, at the least I'd say it was a tie. I got pretty tired of McCane claiming that Obama "doesn't understand" something.

They both landed a few good blows, I don't know if there was an outright winner.
Obama by a slight margin is my opinion.

And that's the thing that amuses me. Everybody's praising Obama as the second coming of Black Jesus, and in every step of this race he's failed to slam dunk it. He barely eked out of the primaries and barely squeezed by Hillary. He continues to barely get by. Pundits can't even say he 'won' the debate. I don't see anything that's great about this smurfing guy.



To top it all off, he's a muslim. And he has purple lips.

I also thought it was kinda boring. Maybe 'cause I'm already seeing the 'holes' in each. I didn't catch the last half hour, but what I did hear I'd call a draw.

But, McMonger repeating 3x 'Senator Obama just doesn't understand'... pissed me off.

kos has a poll up and I voted:

Poll

Of the following moments in the debate, what was your favorite?
    When Obama said he had a bracelet with a soldier's name on it, too.
15%    1574 votes
    When McCain stumbled over the pronunciation of President Ahmadinejad's name.
5%    544 votes
    When Obama pointed out that Henry Kissinger had urged no pre-condition meetings with Iran.
7%    678 votes
    When McCain said for the second time he isn't known as Miss Congeniality
3%    263 votes
    When Obama said McCain was wrong, wrong, wrong about Iraq.
39%    4000 votes
    When Obama reminded everyone that McCain had sung about bombing Iran.
26%    2690 votes
    Something else that would have been included in any decent poll
5%    549 votes

Call me 4k.

I'm disappointed Obama stuck with the 'We're behind Israel, right of wrong.' idea within the debate.
I'm disappointed there's STILL no national health care.

I'm disappointed we're torturing people.
I'm disappointed we're killing people in Iraq.
I'm disappointed we're getting our own people in Iraq.
I'm disappionted the cost of heroin remains high, in spite of our military intervention in Afghanistan.

I'm disappointed that today's cars avg. less MPG than 25 years ago.

I'm disappointed about a lot of things. Being able to click on an obviously 'partisan' poll and get instant yucks is not one of them.

daemon wrote:

I'm disappointed Obama stuck with the 'We're behind Israel, right of wrong.' idea within the debate.
I'm disappointed there's STILL no national health care.

I'm disappointed we're torturing people.
I'm disappointed we're killing people in Iraq.
I'm disappointed we're getting our own people in Iraq.
I'm disappionted the cost of heroin remains high, in spite of our military intervention in Afghanistan.

I'm disappointed that today's cars avg. less MPG than 25 years ago.

I'm disappointed about a lot of things. Being able to click on an obviously 'partisan' poll and get instant yucks is not one of them.

I'm not disappointed by those things.  Those things make me angry. 

The fact that the poll is without substance is of considerably less consequence, yet it's representative of the vapid, empty reporting that has become all we can expect of our media.  That's disappointing.

I found the debate pretty underwhelming. It pissed me off when both candidates (as usual) didn't do as they were told by the moderator, and just said what they wanted to say. They were both asked several times what they would give up, or how they would adapt their policies in the wake of the financial crisis. Obama said it would definitely affect the budget, then went on to list all the things that needed money. McCain just said to cut spending and get rid of earmarks over and over again.

Both Obama and McCain called Iran's Revolutionary Guards the Republican Guards (I'm ashamed that I didn't notice it, I think Wolf on CNN pointed it out). McCain also messed up the name of the new PM of Pakistan (its Zardari, I forget what he said).

I think Obama would have done much better if he had tried confronting McCain directly. Say to him, not the audience, what he thought about something, try to pin him down a bit. Apparently he did it once (I missed that part) but he should have been doing it throughout the debate. Actually turn the thing into a real debate instead of just a stream of talking points. Oh well.

Actually McCain has long been against us torturing. (I wonder why) It's one thing I do admire about him.

Didn't McCain change his position in regards to waterboarding?  Why wasn't he called on this?