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Wait, who is this Biden guy, and why is Obama choosing a running mate no one has ever heard of?

Seems she winked multiple times at the camera. That has gotten negative comment from the usual left suspect blogs. That wouldn't come through on the radio.

About the prediction: from just a cursory reading post-debate, I'd not wager on much of any change in the polling. In fact, barring some deus-ex-mach, a week from now the trends will be the same.

Soon after her name 'popped' - say that first weekend, I said by Nov. she'd be seen as 'extreme' and 'out of the mainstream.'

Nothing has happened to change that estimate.

Come Nov. her approvals/disapprovals will be worse than today. The 'Hail Mary' will fall incomplete at best; it may be 'intercepted'...leading to further erosion of the 'brand'.

Even that liberal Boston Globe (NYTEast):

The debate probably didn't help or hurt either ticket

The two presidential candidates excelled at explaining their positions and left voters with a good sense of what they could expect from either one.

It was a mistake, however, for her to try to answer Biden's informed, detailed answers on foreign policy with folksy comments. Her depiction of nuclear weapons as the "be all, end all" for "just too many people" and her praise of Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice for "trying to forge that peace," sounded off key.

OFF KEY!? Try rambling mishmash undecipherable insanity. I suppose not drooling helped.

Most instapolls I've seen have Biden 2-1 winner and better prepared to be in the Oval Office taking that 3am call.

More Globularity:

Still, some people had expected even less from her. After a few shaky performances in TV interviews, Palin's basic fitness was being questioned; some people wondered if she'd embarrass herself and McCain.

But last night, in her feisty first half of the debate, she showed why she can be an asset to McCain. And her later, shakier performance still wasn't bad enough to raise new fears about her competence.

That's probably enough to declare the debate a success for Palin.

Let's see what polling looks like a week from now after the liberal media give her a 'draw' and find no DQ - or smoking gun. 'She's not as crazy as she looks.' might just be the message that works.

But, I wonder if it's not too late to change the cementing conventional wisdom of the electorate.

Last edited by daemon (2008-10-03 6:32 am)

I used to like that phrase.

Palin benefitted from lowered expectations. Even her conservative supporters were fearful of some on-camera gaffe, so since she didn't make one Palin "won."

what kind of sentences?

radarman wrote:

D'Eyncourt wrote:

Palin benefitted from lowered expectations. Even her conservative supporters were fearful of some on-camera gaffe, so since she didn't make one Palin "won."

Ah, the beauty of lowered standards. At this point, either candidate would be a 'step up' from Shrub Jr. Hell, anyone capable of speaking in complete sentences would be an improvement. By this standard, Palin should have run directly, rather than waiting to get picked up as a running mate.

Well, she does have the most executive experience of the 4 running for Prez and Veep.

daemon wrote:

radarman wrote:

daemon wrote:

what kind of sentences?

http://www.geocities.com/fifth_grade_tpes/complete.html

http://www.slate.com/id/2201158/
http://www.236.com/news/2008/10/02/diag … 1_9246.php

Hmm, I've always considered Palin to be a female intellectual clone of Shrub Jr; and this adds even more evidence...

I suppose you have a point there.

It's called double talk. The point is to insert as many words that the meaning of what you are saying completely invisible. The words don't even have to correlate to each other. In fact, it works better when they don't.

Oh. Wow.
http://www.cafepress.com/sarahpalingear.302909140

I don't know - I kind of think a presidential/vp candidate should be a notch or two above cafe press.

So, a little bit after her name was picked I said here that I thought it would backfire w/women. Specifically, the targeted 'hillary' voter. Working women of a certain 'boomer' age. Who've seen what sleeping with the boss will get the 'pretty' one. Unfair advance, etc.

Now, given this is further down the road, and just after we've seen the Palin wink at work, and this person was probably not predisposed to vote R (a usual suspect left blog commenter). But still this is the essence:

The thing that really pisses me off about the Veep Debate is that We the People were invited to witness the job interview for the second most powerful office in the country and some hick thinks it is a joke…… wink wink….. smerk and ya Betcha…

As a woman who has been in the workforce more than 30 years first as a nurse then a software engineer….. I find her performance offensive and degrading to women everywhere…….

How many others more in the 'center' have that same visceral reaction, maybe without even really being aware of it, I wonder.

Coupla things:

1) I'm not exactly prepared to make Governor Golly-Gee the focal point of any kinda feminist tirade, but I think every professional journalist or blogger who uses the word "feisty" in relation to her should be required to then publish at least one piece per day, for the next 2 weeks, in which they are forced to find some justification for describing Obama or McCain -or any man- as "feisty."

Rally cars are feisty. Senile old people becoming irate at the Apple Store because their Internet doesn't work are feisty.

Angry shrews are feisty.

Calling a woman "feisty" because she exhibits qualities of assertiveness, ambition, self-confidence, leadership, poise, or competitiveness is not too different from saying she's shrewish.

2) You think Miss Congeniality-with-a-gun might possibly be hurt by the fact that she seems to be, well, --if not  completely out of touch with reality like George W-- at least somewhat bereft of experience and unaware of the  big world around her?

Remember, The Hottie & McCain* are faced with the uphill battle of running as the candidates of change, despite being from the same criminal organization, I mean political party, as the incumbents they hope to replace. It helps the Hottie** if she seems confused by the strange ways of our nation's leaders and the esoteric thought exercises which they constantly puzzle out with reporters and other fast-talking big-city types.

Once upon a time, an evangelical Christian from some backwards redneck hell-hole came before the voters and said,  "I've never been to Washington."

That was his whole platform, and it worked.

The American people were so disappointed with Washington that they were quite willing to take a chance on Jimmy Carter.

Voters today are, shall we say, just a little, eensy-weensy-bit more disappointed now that they were back then.


*Sounds like a great name for a new TV show, don't it? Has a sort of "Hardcastle & McCormick" ring to it. If you happen to spy me in your building any time soon, you might wanna just take the stairs so as to avoid my elevator pitch.

** I am offended by my demeaning, objectifying use of the term "hottie," and feel that I should be required to post at least one message per day, for the next 2 weeks, in which I'm forced to find some justification for describing Obama or McCain -or any man- as a "hottie."