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Hey. Do me a favor, when you find a smoking gun of voter fraud, let me know. Until then, I consider the issue itself fraud.

"Fraud," or....

CBS News has learned that the state’s investigation is focusing on the conduct of ACORN’s work force. Critics allege that ACORN hires workers “off the street” to sign up new voters, paying them by the number of voters registered - sometimes resulting in false and duplicate names. But an ACORN spokesman dismisses this allegation and told CBS News that workers are paid “by the hour” and “not by the number of people they sign up.”

The article alleges that they're being investigated, it doesn't say they've found anything....and it seems like it could be something as simple as workers forging registrations to be paid more money from the organization.   

Your second article is terribly weak on specifics. 

I probed further and found out that a good number (at least several dozen) of my fellow Delaware Counteans had been subjected to the same experience, and that the District Attorney was planning to prosecute whomever was to blame.

This was simply incredible. Was this the Soviet Union? Nazi Germany? Who in their right mind would take a risk of having me show up at the polling place at the same time as the imposter? Did Acorn’s operatives not believe I and the other taxpayers they wronged have a right to vote? I have no knowledge of the outcome of any case resulting from Acorn’s voter fraud in Delaware County. However, I cannot help but imagine that if the case were about a Republican Party conspiracy to defraud voters in a largely Democratic district, there would have been no shortage of media coverage (to put it mildly).

Well...?  Have these allegations been substantiated?

Acorn says they pay by the hour, not the registration.
At least according to the first link.

But an ACORN spokesman dismisses this allegation and told CBS News that workers are paid “by the hour” and “not by the number of people they sign up.”

Seems you're trying to compare apples to pears, res.

Again, I might say.

.tsooJ

Oregon's method works like this.   Oregon mails the ballots to your address.  You mail the ballot back.

The risk of voter fraud is much lower.

resedit wrote:

Allegations about republicans are enough for you to start threads.
Even when the allegations aren't even enough for there to be an investigation - such as the Michigan thread you started about the foreclosed homes.

Did I tell you not to start a thread? 

You'll note I was also the first person in that thread to point out that it might not even be true.

Yet you also stated "It's one of many 'vote caging' tactics that the GOP engages in--always targeting democratic areas."

You didn't distinguish it as an allegation, like you are trying to do here.

Last edited by resedit (2008-10-08 8:59 am)

resedit wrote:

Yet you also stated "It's one of many 'vote caging' tactics that the GOP engages in--always targeting democratic areas."

You didn't distinguish it as an allegation, like you are trying to do here.

Yes Res, but look at the difference in our source articles:

The chairman of the Republican Party in Macomb County Michigan, a key swing county in a key swing state, is planning to use a list of foreclosed homes to block people from voting in the upcoming election as part of the state GOP’s effort to challenge some voters on Election Day.

“We will have a list of foreclosed homes and will make sure people aren’t voting from those addresses,” party chairman James Carabelli told Michigan Messenger in a telephone interview earlier this week. He said the local party wanted to make sure that proper electoral procedures were followed.

Now, if the guy truly never said that then somebody made it up and deserves to be sued.  It would have been strange to say "GOP guy alleges that he going to do this."  Don't you think this discussion would have gone differently had it read "ACORN leader states plans to commit election fraud in interview?"

resedit wrote:

Alien wrote:

resedit wrote:

Both are fleshy fruits.

Yes, your powers of evasion are beyond dispute. Amazing.

If only we could say the same of your debating prowess and ability to address issues brought to your attention.

Debating prowess?

Do you understand English? If not, that would, of course, explain a lot.

What was the point of Apple and Pears?

The point was that you're comparing an investigation into possible (alleged) fraud to a report on a tactitc that had been decided upon (and later withdrawn).

It certainly added absolutely nothing to the discussion.

Except pointing out that you are once again sidestepping the issues at hand when you're out of actual arguments.

How's that answer in the frozen embryo thread coming along?

.tsooJ

Alien wrote:

How's that answer in the frozen embryo thread coming along?

.tsooJ

Don't you ever accuse me of going off topic in a thread again.
You are bordering on personal attack.

I'm sorry I rubbed you the wrong way, but please check yourself.

resedit wrote:

Alien wrote:

How's that answer in the frozen embryo thread coming along?

Don't you ever accuse me of going off topic in a thread again.

I don't accuse you of going off topic, I'm accusing you of copping out (repeatedly, almost constantly).

You are bordering on personal attack.

I disagree.

I'm sorry I rubbed you the wrong way, but please check yourself.

I'm checking you. Your behaviour is detrimental to the debate here.

.tsooJ

Alien wrote:

resedit wrote:

Alien wrote:

How's that answer in the frozen embryo thread coming along?

Don't you ever accuse me of going off topic in a thread again.

I don't accuse you of going off topic, I'm accusing you of copping out (repeatedly, almost constantly).

You are bordering on personal attack.

I disagree.

I'm sorry I rubbed you the wrong way, but please check yourself.

I'm checking you. Your behaviour is detrimental to the debate here.

.tsooJ

Apples and Pears has to be the most unusual way I've ever seen someone "check" someone else.