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Alien wrote:

I wasn't talking about computers or persons, so the capitalisation is unnecessary. "Comparing apples to pears" is a standard expression meaning as much as, "you're trying to compare two incomparable entities." Which is waht you were doing in that particular instance. In other words: I was commenting that your argumentation was bogus.

.tsooJ

Here in the states it's usually 'Apple's & Oranges' but I grokked you anyway.

And in Frostbite Falls, it's "Moose and Squirrel".

daemon wrote:

Hey. Do me a favor, when you find a smoking gun of voter fraud, let me know. Until then, I consider the issue itself fraud.

http://www.lvrj.com/news/30613864.ht
"Some of these (forms) were facially fraudulent; we basically had the starting lineup for the Dallas Cowboys," Secretary of State Ross Miller said. "Tony Romo is not registered to vote in Nevada. Anyone trying to pose as Terrell Owens won't be able to cast a ballot."

Tetrachloride wrote:

Oregon's method works like this.   Oregon mails the ballots to your address.  You mail the ballot back.

The risk of voter fraud is much lower.

I will be frequenting the mailboxes there soon.

Daddyo wrote:

daemon wrote:

Not good enough.

No 'Mickey Mouse' example.

How about this?-maybe some truth will come out
http://pythios.blogspot.com/2008/10/buz … -feds.html

That's some hard-hitting journalism.

I guess this thread should be re-labeled as "registration fraud" as opposed to "voter fraud" shouldn't it?

Seems also that the organization in question was reporting the fraud as opposed to the insinuation that it was encouraging it, is that correct?

Daddyo wrote:

Maybe this one-
http://www.thoseshirts.com/mic.html

Cook County write-in; not a voter, per se.
"MIckey Hussein Mouse" has a certain ring to it.

Nice work though.

Last edited by daemon (2008-10-09 2:31 pm)

news flash: voter fraud happens for all the candidates.

anyone who tries to say their side is perfect is mistaken.

I wonder if the CEO of the Universe has enough of a sense of humour to have the aftermath of '08 have conservatives crying electoral shenanigans and liberals contemptuously telling them to get over it.

everlong554 wrote:

Isn't Fitzgerald the guy who went after Scooter? Holy hannah (barbera), we might just get a Fitzmas and frogmarching yet.

Actually it does bring up an interesting point. Why are so few news organizations following this story? Maybe they're in the tank for Obama?

There isn't an Obama connection to this story. 

etc etc. Now across at least 7 states, and everywhere its ACORN. At the very least they are extremely sloppy with their voter drive, but there is definitely growing evidence that there is potentially more than that.

Is there?  Perhaps you've read something that I haven't, but I hadn't seen anything other than fake/multiple registration forms.

From the WSJ:

t's far from clear that the number of suspicious registrations is enough to affect the outcome of the presidential vote, even in tight states, elections officials say. They say enforcement efforts are likely to spot any big collections of fake registrations before votes are cast. What's more, a fake registration doesn't necessarily mean an ineligible vote is tallied. Officials say canvassers sometimes make up registered names to impress bosses or earn bonuses, but that doesn't result in anyone ineligible casting a vote.

Acorn is a frequent target of Republican voter-fraud allegations, and it had workers in two states last year convicted of submitting fake registrations. Acorn says it works hard to root out bad apples. A sign at the organization's office here reads: "Anyone committing fraud will be reported to the Bureau of Elections, prosecuted and terminated immediately."

Acorn's quality-control manager at the office, Bianca Brown, says employees check each application and have a call center attempt to confirm the information with applicants. She says such reviews caught a person who registered as Batman and another who has tried to register 70 times. Acorn says it has fired about 80 workers in New Mexico since December 2007 over potentially fraudulent registrations.

New Mexico law requires Acorn to turn in all applications, no matter how suspicious-looking, within 48 hours. Elections officials do their own quality control on registrations, but Acorn officials say their own process helps the government save time.

Link.

Again, any illegal activity needs to be uncovered and prosecuted--but the suggestion that Obama's campaign is involved is laughable.

Apparently, FOX has been reporting on this crisis pretty much non-stop, so it's not just lame blogs...it's also a lame cable news channel.

Maybe they get their news from the blogs...

Over TPM Josh Marshall has a lengthy deconstruction and description about the whole brouhaha. Which includes this passage:

I've always had questions about whether this is a good way to do voter registration. And Democratic campaigns usually keep their distance. But here's the key. This is fraud against ACORN. They end up paying people for registering more people then they actually signed up. If you register me three times to vote, the registrar will see two new registrations of an already registered person and the ones won't count. If I successfully register Mickey Mouse to vote, on election day, Mickey Mouse will still be a cartoon character who cannot go to the local voting station and vote. Logically speaking there's very little way a few phony names on the voting rolls could be used to commit actual vote fraud. And much more importantly, numerous studies and investigations have shown no evidence of anything more than a handful of isolated cases of actual instances of vote fraud.