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#26 2008-10-11 11:28 am

jerwin
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Re: ***BREAKING NEWS*** Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing

ScifiterX wrote:

Of course her attorney disagreed with the conclusions. It's his job to disagree with anything that may work against his client.

Multiply-pronged arguments don't make for good sound bites.


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#27 2008-10-11 11:35 am

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Re: ***BREAKING NEWS*** Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing

Well, the guests on MSNBC seem to unanimously feel this doesn't mean smurf given everything else that's going on. I guess the economy is at least working one way in McCain's favor.

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#28 2008-10-11 12:15 pm

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Re: ***BREAKING NEWS*** Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing

Gurlugon wrote:

Well, the guests on MSNBC seem to unanimously feel this doesn't mean smurf given everything else that's going on. I guess the economy is at least working one way in McCain's favor.

Heh, ya..one giant disadvantage distracting from another. It would be funny if it werent so sad.

McCain v.2000 makes McCain v.2008 look pretty pathetic.


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#29 2008-10-11 4:07 pm

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Re: ***BREAKING NEWS*** Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing

It should also be noted that they found the firing to be legal.

The abuse of power was her not preventing her husband from doing what he did. Not the firing.

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#30 2008-10-11 4:30 pm

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Re: ***BREAKING NEWS*** Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing

resedit wrote:

It should also be noted that they found the firing to be legal.

The abuse of power was her not preventing her husband from doing what he did. Not the firing.

Should this distinction be comforting to anyone?


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#31 2008-10-11 4:37 pm

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Re: ***BREAKING NEWS*** Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing

bratboy wrote:

resedit wrote:

It should also be noted that they found the firing to be legal.

The abuse of power was her not preventing her husband from doing what he did. Not the firing.

Should this distinction be comforting to anyone?

Comforting?
No.

But it is dishonest and factually incorrect to say she abused her power in firing him, because the report said she did not.


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#32 2008-10-11 4:50 pm

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Re: ***BREAKING NEWS*** Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing

resedit wrote:

bratboy wrote:

resedit wrote:

It should also be noted that they found the firing to be legal.

The abuse of power was her not preventing her husband from doing what he did. Not the firing.

Should this distinction be comforting to anyone?

Comforting?
No.

But it is dishonest and factually incorrect to say she abused her power in firing him, because the report said she did not.

And to think the right went screeching for years about Hillary Clinton and the White House travel office.


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#33 2008-10-11 5:00 pm

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Re: ***BREAKING NEWS*** Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing

ShnickyShnack wrote:

resedit wrote:

bratboy wrote:


Should this distinction be comforting to anyone?

Comforting?
No.

But it is dishonest and factually incorrect to say she abused her power in firing him, because the report said she did not.

And to think the right went screeching for years about Hillary Clinton and the White House travel office.

What was my position on that?

Hell - I don't even remember it.


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#34 2008-10-11 5:15 pm

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Re: ***BREAKING NEWS*** Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing

resedit wrote:

But it is dishonest and factually incorrect to say she abused her power in firing him, because the report said she did not.

confused

Perhaps it would be "dishonest" to proclaim that this report came to that conclusion, but I don't think it's dishonest to have that opinion.

It really isn't terribly relevant whether or not the firing of Monegan was deemed to be proper or not.  Many felt that to be the logical conclusion of her behavior, but there was clearly abuse of power involved in the attempts to get the trooper fired.


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#35 2008-10-11 6:02 pm

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Re: ***BREAKING NEWS*** Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing

Abuse of power isn't very "mavericky".

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#36 2008-10-11 6:45 pm

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Re: ***BREAKING NEWS*** Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing

it seems the arguments for having hubby-in-law fired is that there was fear of hubby-in-law.

let's see,.. causing a potentially unstable guy (seems to almost be a prerequisite for law enforcement) loose his job through family connections,.. seems to me this would push a potentially unstable guy off the edge, no?

was he somehow more docile when unemployed?

pulling punitive crap like this, in this most obvious link between the parties involved, is exactly why there are ethical guidelines drawn up.
if she did not cross that line, she at least appears to have totally and undeniably crossed that line.
pick one.


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#37 2008-10-11 6:46 pm

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Re: ***BREAKING NEWS*** Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing

You betcha!


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#38 2008-10-11 7:14 pm

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Re: ***BREAKING NEWS*** Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing

resedit wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

resedit wrote:


Comforting?
No.

But it is dishonest and factually incorrect to say she abused her power in firing him, because the report said she did not.

And to think the right went screeching for years about Hillary Clinton and the White House travel office.

What was my position on that?

Hell - I don't even remember it.

Get a job  hippy.


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#39 2008-10-11 9:15 pm

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Re: ***BREAKING NEWS*** Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing

Pariah wrote:

resedit wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:


And to think the right went screeching for years about Hillary Clinton and the White House travel office.

What was my position on that?

Hell - I don't even remember it.

Get a job  hippy.

and quit bogart'n the doob, eh?


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#40 2008-10-11 9:15 pm

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Re: ***BREAKING NEWS*** Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing

Pariah wrote:

resedit wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:


And to think the right went screeching for years about Hillary Clinton and the White House travel office.

What was my position on that?

Hell - I don't even remember it.

Get a job  hippy.

smurf off


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Jenny had a pistol in the other
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#41 2008-10-11 10:27 pm

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Re: ***BREAKING NEWS*** Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing

resedit wrote:

Pariah wrote:

resedit wrote:


What was my position on that?

Hell - I don't even remember it.

Get a job  hippy.

smurf off

Har,
As if you would even know how that might be accomplished. lol


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#42 2008-10-11 10:31 pm

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Re: ***BREAKING NEWS*** Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing

drop it and back on topic


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#43 2008-10-12 2:53 pm

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Re: ***BREAKING NEWS*** Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing

bedstuy wrote:

Abuse of power isn't very "mavericky".

lol

Man, and she surely abused that word alot. tongue


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#44 2008-10-12 3:17 pm

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Re: ***BREAKING NEWS*** Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing

Finding #1 says that she abused her power to put pressure on the commissioner to fire the trooper.

Finding #2 says that she DID NOT abuse her power in firing the commissioner. It said she was well within her authority to fire him.

To make the statement that "Palin abused power in firing" is false.


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#45 2008-10-12 3:21 pm

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Re: ***BREAKING NEWS*** Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing

bedstuy wrote:

Abuse of power isn't very "mavericky".

On the contrary, abuse of power is exactly the thing a maverick would do.

And people should keep in mind that a maverick who has abused her power in the past is likely to abuse her power in the future.


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#46 2008-10-12 5:53 pm

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Re: ***BREAKING NEWS*** Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing

pastor macman wrote:

Finding #1 says that she abused her power to put pressure on the commissioner to fire the trooper.

Finding #2 says that she DID NOT abuse her power in firing the commissioner. It said she was well within her authority to fire him.

To make the statement that "Palin abused power in firing" is false.

Wrong.


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#47 2008-10-12 7:20 pm

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Re: ***BREAKING NEWS*** Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing

I think Sarah Palin would abuse the powers of the Vice Presidency,and on the whole, she reminds of Dick Cheney in drag.


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#48 2008-10-12 8:00 pm

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Re: ***BREAKING NEWS*** Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing

jerwin wrote:

I think Sarah Palin would abuse the powers of the Vice Presidency,and on the whole, she reminds of Dick Cheney in drag.

You've seen Dick Cheney in drag?

How did that miss the news!


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#49 2008-10-12 8:25 pm

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Re: ***BREAKING NEWS*** Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing

:: shudder ::


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#50 2008-10-12 10:08 pm

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Re: ***BREAKING NEWS*** Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing

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