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#1 2008-10-13 6:18 pm
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Non-christians want an Obama win
As if McCain's rallies couldn't get any more offensive:
A minister delivering the invocation at John McCain’s rally in Davenport, Iowa Saturday told the crowd non-Christian religions around the world were praying for Barack Obama to win the U.S. presidential election.
“There are millions of people around this world praying to their god—whether it’s Hindu, Buddha, Allah—that his opponent wins, for a variety of reasons. And Lord, I pray that you will guard your own reputation, because they’re going to think that their God is bigger than you, if that happens,” said Arnold Conrad, the former pastor of Grace Evangelical Free Church in Davenport.
How could anyone find this appropriate?
The remark was made before McCain arrived at the rally but the Republican nominee's campaign quickly put out a statement distancing itself from the remarks.
“While we understand the important role that faith plays in informing the votes of Iowans, questions about the religious background of the candidates only serve to distract from the real questions in this race about Barack Obama's judgment, policies and readiness to lead as commander in chief,” said McCain campaign spokesperson Wendy Riemann.
Fair enough, but don't they screen these guys beforehand? You think they'd be a bit more careful after the bad press all the crazies gave them last week.
Link.
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#2 2008-10-13 6:26 pm
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Re: Non-christians want an Obama win
He forgot the god of the Jews !
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#3 2008-10-13 6:30 pm
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"Those of us who have looked to the self-interest of lending institutions to protect shareholders’ equity, myself especially, are in a state of shocked disbelief." -- Alan Greenspan
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#4 2008-10-13 8:44 pm
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It's like when football teams pray before the super bowl. . . and what do they actually expect God to do? These people are nutbags, pure and simple.
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#5 2008-10-13 8:49 pm
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Re: Non-christians want an Obama win
JakeTheTall wrote:
He forgot the god of the Jews !
Oh man, I sooooo want to do my Edward G Robinson
"Where's your messiah now, Moses? Eh? I go to serve the pharaoh, see? "
Minithink isn't a "to the death" cage match.
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#6 2008-10-13 8:53 pm
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Whores.
I bet you they already had an idea of the kind of dirt he could say for them so THEY dont have to play dirty.
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#7 2008-10-13 8:56 pm
Re: Non-christians want an Obama win
Farmerkev wrote:
JakeTheTall wrote:
He forgot the god of the Jews !
Oh man, I sooooo want to do my Edward G Robinson
"Where's your messiah now, Moses? Eh? I go to serve the pharaoh, see? "
That is good. However, he's misquoted. Here's the real stuff:
Lilia: Dathan, if you fear God, let me go.
Dathan: I am here, girl, because I would put no fear in a desert god and his mud-pit prophet. I am here because I bowed lower than my brothers before the Egyptians. Now the Egyptians bow low before me. Joshua wanted you. Baka wanted you. But you belong to me, a gift from Rameses.
Lilia: I will bow before you, Dathan. I will work my hands raw for you. But please do not shame me before my Lord.
Dathan: Your lord is the govenor of Goshen.
Lilia: What difference to my shame?
Dathan: No difference to you, my dove of Cannan, but to a condemned slave like Joshua it could mean the difference between death on the spikes and life in the copper mines of Sinai. What would you do to influence his excellency's clemency?
Lilia: [sobbing] Anything, Dathan, anything.
Dathan: Joshua will always be grateful to you.
Reverberations through the ages.
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#8 2008-10-13 10:00 pm
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He's also wrong - there are many Christians, even evangelicals, who want Obama to win.
Some of them do not like talk about it because politics tends to be very polarizing, it does seem that quite a few (but not all) of them are very partisan never vote for a democrat - but I'm guessing those are a minority, most would seriously consider Democrat candidates, many of them are going to vote for Obama.
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#9 2008-10-13 10:20 pm
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Re: Non-christians want an Obama win
How about Obama the anti-christ? I'm surprised we haven't been hearing more of this:
"I'm scared of Obama - from what I have read and his associations which are questionable, his so-called terrorist associations, and even his church," said Lori Raynor, a biochemist. "I just don't think he can run this country." She added: "Some of my friends have even told me they think he is the anti-Christ."
Others remained convinced that Obama was a Muslim, even while criticising his choice of church for the past 20 years. "I believe he has had a Muslim upbringing, but his wife is a Christian," said Scott Wallace, a physician's assistant.
Link.
Kinda scary that this is what the biochemist in the audience is saying....
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#10 2008-10-13 10:29 pm
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Re: Non-christians want an Obama win
bratboy wrote:
How about Obama the anti-christ? I'm surprised we haven't been hearing more of this:
"I'm scared of Obama - from what I have read and his associations which are questionable, his so-called terrorist associations, and even his church," said Lori Raynor, a biochemist. "I just don't think he can run this country." She added: "Some of my friends have even told me they think he is the anti-Christ."
Others remained convinced that Obama was a Muslim, even while criticising his choice of church for the past 20 years. "I believe he has had a Muslim upbringing, but his wife is a Christian," said Scott Wallace, a physician's assistant.Link.
Kinda scary that this is what the biochemist in the audience is saying....
Well, you do realize we aren't 100% sure Bruce Ivins was the actual Anthrax mailer...
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#11 2008-10-13 11:26 pm
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bratboy wrote:
How about Obama the anti-christ? I'm surprised we haven't been hearing more of this:
"I'm scared of Obama - from what I have read and his associations which are questionable, his so-called terrorist associations, and even his church," said Lori Raynor, a biochemist. "I just don't think he can run this country." She added: "Some of my friends have even told me they think he is the anti-Christ."
Others remained convinced that Obama was a Muslim, even while criticising his choice of church for the past 20 years. "I believe he has had a Muslim upbringing, but his wife is a Christian," said Scott Wallace, a physician's assistant.Link.
Kinda scary that this is what the biochemist in the audience is saying....
I question the qualifications of a biochemist who thinks that voting against the anti-Christ is going to stop the anti-Christ.
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#12 2008-10-14 8:24 am
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Re: Non-christians want an Obama win
Olberman had that preacher in his "World's Worst" gallery.
Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.
Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.
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#13 2008-10-14 8:33 am
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Re: Non-christians want an Obama win
daemon wrote:
Farmerkev wrote:
JakeTheTall wrote:
He forgot the god of the Jews !
Oh man, I sooooo want to do my Edward G Robinson
"Where's your messiah now, Moses? Eh? I go to serve the pharaoh, see? "That is good. However, he's misquoted. Here's the real stuff:
Lilia: Dathan, if you fear God, let me go.
Dathan: I am here, girl, because I would put no fear in a desert god and his mud-pit prophet. I am here because I bowed lower than my brothers before the Egyptians. Now the Egyptians bow low before me. Joshua wanted you. Baka wanted you. But you belong to me, a gift from Rameses.
Lilia: I will bow before you, Dathan. I will work my hands raw for you. But please do not shame me before my Lord.
Dathan: Your lord is the govenor of Goshen.
Lilia: What difference to my shame?
Dathan: No difference to you, my dove of Cannan, but to a condemned slave like Joshua it could mean the difference between death on the spikes and life in the copper mines of Sinai. What would you do to influence his excellency's clemency?
Lilia: [sobbing] Anything, Dathan, anything.
Dathan: Joshua will always be grateful to you.Reverberations through the ages.
I like Kev's version better. 
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#14 2008-10-14 5:27 pm
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This non-Christian sure wants Obama to win.
I’m not ready to make nice-I’m not ready to back down-I’m still mad as hell and
I don’t have time to go round and round and round-It’s too late to make it right
I probably wouldn’t if I could-‘Cause I’m mad as hell-Can’t bring myself to do what it is you think I should
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#15 2008-10-14 5:29 pm
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I like kev's better..."Also!"
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#16 2008-10-14 8:23 pm
Re: Non-christians want an Obama win
bratboy wrote:
How about Obama the anti-christ? I'm surprised we haven't been hearing more of this:
Most evangelicals feel the anti-christ will be of European decent, which Obama is not.
It comes from a prophecy in Daniel where it says "The people of the Prince to come will destroy the temple" - the temple was destroyed by Rome in 70 A.D. so many of us believe the anti-christ will be of European decent, if not Italian.
That may be why there isn't quite as much fear mongering about Obama being the anti-christ.
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#17 2008-10-14 8:50 pm
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Re: Non-christians want an Obama win
Obama's half white, remember. He may yet be the Anti-Christ!
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#18 2008-10-14 8:52 pm
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Re: Non-christians want an Obama win
ShnickyShnack wrote:
Obama's half white, remember. He may yet be the Anti-Christ!
Not even close to being funny. 
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#19 2008-10-14 10:11 pm
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I'm almost half English.
The shame is almost too much to bear!
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#20 2008-10-14 10:12 pm
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Re: Non-christians want an Obama win
CG5Addict wrote:
ShnickyShnack wrote:
Obama's half white, remember. He may yet be the Anti-Christ!
UNTRUE
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#21 2008-10-15 1:01 am
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"Non-christians want an Obama win"
so?
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#22 2008-10-15 7:21 am
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Re: Non-christians want an Obama win
resedit wrote:
bratboy wrote:
How about Obama the anti-christ? I'm surprised we haven't been hearing more of this:
Most evangelicals feel the anti-christ will be of European decent, which Obama is not.
It comes from a prophecy in Daniel where it says "The people of the Prince to come will destroy the temple" - the temple was destroyed by Rome in 70 A.D. so many of us believe the anti-christ will be of European decent, if not Italian.
That may be why there isn't quite as much fear mongering about Obama being the anti-christ.
I'm glad there's a good reason. Otherwise, it'd be silly.
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#23 2008-10-15 7:41 am
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Ribtorus wrote:
resedit wrote:
bratboy wrote:
How about Obama the anti-christ? I'm surprised we haven't been hearing more of this:
Most evangelicals feel the anti-christ will be of European decent, which Obama is not.
It comes from a prophecy in Daniel where it says "The people of the Prince to come will destroy the temple" - the temple was destroyed by Rome in 70 A.D. so many of us believe the anti-christ will be of European decent, if not Italian.
That may be why there isn't quite as much fear mongering about Obama being the anti-christ.I'm glad there's a good reason. Otherwise, it'd be silly.
Well, whenever they do it - it always is silly.
The anti-christ isn't someone we can prevent from coming to power, so accusations of soandso being the anti-christ isn't going to change anything if he really is. It's mostly just FUD, and any decent pastor will discourage such activity amongst his congregation.
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#24 2008-10-15 10:46 am
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[MA] Flying_Meat wrote:
"Non-christians want an Obama win"
so?
So it's good the Non-Christians and Christians have come to a consensus.
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#25 2008-10-15 11:27 am
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Re: Non-christians want an Obama win
CG5Addict wrote:
ShnickyShnack wrote:
Obama's half white, remember. He may yet be the Anti-Christ!
Um, does the concept of miscegenation mean anything to you? Because it shouldn't.
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