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Ok This is the way I see it MB & MBP lines have each been split into the equivalent of a Classic & Touches.
The Classic has FW400 while the Touches does not.

i bet apple was originally hoping to have s3200

ukimalefu wrote:

pirloui wrote:

Such a large border on the screen of the pro-book..
The TiBook was slimmest; then came the thicker Alubook, then the MBP; and now this one. Steadily getting wider.

I think both the new MBP and MB are 0.95 inches thin.

Sure, but the pro line has only gone thicker since the Titanium..
Ti: http://www.kradcarbon.com/auto/FS/tibook/open.jpg
Al: http://www.macreviewzone.com/images/rec … 162003.jpg
MBP1: http://www.copystars.com/images_product … s20004.jpg
MBP2: http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/

Eventually it doesn't matter so much, but I don't like the way they cheat visually with the black rim. That's what cheap cell-phones do..

you're  right kman...
i still can't believe they dropped scsi

personified8 wrote:

don't they have fw800 to fw400 adapters and vice versa? I know they have fw800 to usb2.0 adapters as I have that for my external fw800, usb2.0 and fw400 enclosure.

It's just Apple's way of forcing people (customers and those that produce hardware) to embrace "newer" technology. They did it with ubs/adb and floppies, and now with fw400.

Don't get me wrong, I love fw400, especially over usb, but I love fw800 more. I'll spend 20-40 bucks on some adapters.

I do agree that not having a matte screen is bs. I hate glossies due to the glare. In a bright room i'd rather be seeing my screen not a reflection of the dude behind me.

I'll see how much the 17" costs when it comes out. Right now the "old version" with 4gb of ram and the better hd is 2900+ after student discount. The new 15" is about the same price.

Overall i'm intrigued by these decisions more than impressed.

Yes, but the $1299 and $1599 MacBooks don't have fw800 or fw400, making it impractical for those with MiniDV CamCorders, FW Audio interfaces, FW Hard Drives, or who might need to boot off an external drive or use Target Disc Mode.

333imacman wrote:

Even though I'm a big fan of firewire, Apple's decision is an obvious one. More and more consumer cameras are switching to solid state or hard drive recording, instead of tape. This is happening on the prosumer end as well. Tape is on it's way out. People still use it, I understand, but people still used floppies when Apple introduced the iMac

There aren't many uses for firewire anymore, other than miniDV/HDV cameras and hard drives. USB has become the standard. Apple tried to push firewire, but in the end, USB won. We can't blame Apple. They made it a standard in every machine when tons of PC makers wouldn't. How long did we really expect them to keep it part of consumer machines?

i agree with the trend of moving towards hd cameras and flash memory cameras over DV or even DVD based cameras.

My panasonic camcorder is hd based: the way of the future . . . i guess.

In a few months, the market will have sent its message to Steve whether Firewire is needed on certain models of laptops.

In the meantime, there are sufficient choices.    This port transition is far less traumatic than the lack of floppy drives in 2000 thereabouts.

Personally I never use FW, so it's not an issue for me. I'm more excited about decent graphics on the MacBook. The cost of the new display adapters is rather high. I connect my laptop to an HDTV a lot, so I'll need the DVI one and the VGA one is just good to have. That's $60, ouch. I was also pleased to see a removable battery, I was worried that might be sacrificed as well. It also appears that replacing the hard drive is even easier than before.

If the 9400M performs well enough, that means I can stick with the MB and not lay out the extra for the MBP. Though I still have around seven months left on AppleCare for my current one, I can't justify the expense for a while. I'd like the higher-end one for the backlit keyboard and extra juice.

I do also like how apple beat ifixit.com to the "new macbook completely disassembled pictures"

So you are going to run Windows for your new business venture? Or Linux?

Random User wrote:

So you are going to run Windows for your new business venture? Or Linux?

Windows.
Linux is not an option for Photography. I wish it was.
I prefer OSX of course but the increasing disadvantages of Apple's hardware are just taking them out of the game as far as I am concerned and before anyone starts the OMGWINDERZSUCKS crap. I have never been one of the computer illiterates that can't make Windows work properly.
Anymore I am honestly at a loss as to why anyone with a Photoshop based workflow would bother with Macs.
Apple's screw you attitude towards users is just getting old and I am pretty much out at this point.

Last edited by Pariah (2008-10-14 7:59 pm)

I would have preferred to see the ethernet port gone then the firewire. I don't think I've used the ethernet port on my computer for over two years. my firewire port, however, gets used every time I backup my mac.

Apple's MacBook/MacBook Pro Redesign: A Discussion of Specifications

Today Apple announced updates to its MacBook, MacBook Air and MacBook Pro lines. The notebooks aren't available until tomorrow, but I've started putting together some analysis on the specs. It turns out there's quite a bit of give and take in Apple's new announcements; you get more, but you do give some up.

The new notebooks are also very important as they put to rest rumors of NVIDIA's departure from the chipset business, at least at this point. All of the notebooks I'm talking about here use a brand new Intel chipset by NVIDIA, called the GeForce 9400M. Apple is actually the first OEM to announce support for the 9400M, the chipset itself doesn't actually launch until tomorrow.

While Apple is sticking to Intel CPUs, it has forgone G45 in favor of NVIDIA's offerings - sending a huge message to Intel: the quality of its integrated graphics must improve. While it's unlikely that Nehalem's eventual on-package GPUs will be enough, Larrabee could eventually win Apple's affection once more.

For consumers, this should mean snappier graphics performance (as well as more attractive iMac and Mac mini options assuming NVIDIA's chipsets make their way over there as well). However my quick discussion today will focus more on size and battery life.