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#1 2008-10-14 7:46 pm
- Tallgeese
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ACORN! AYERS! N*****S!
Rush Limbaugh wrote:
From the time of my birth, 57 years ago, to today, this country has grown and expanded, prosperity has opened its doors for more and more people around the world, not just people born in this country. We know the stories of Asians emigrating and running rings around people born in this country academically in California. We know all about the immigration, legal and illegal, to get into the country. We know that the standard of living has risen. We know that technological advancement is going along at light speed. And yet during this period of time, whether it be the last 57 years or be it the last 20 years, it seems that a majority of the black population has remained angry, frustrated, and behind. They've been left behind. They are acting like they've been left behind, and of course we've heard that this is because of racism, natural systemic institutional racism in America, that we are unfair, that this country is just horrible and rotten.
You ever ask yourself how it is that people not even born here can come here and in a few short years begin prospering in school, their own business or what have you, yet people who are born in this country somehow have been raised to hate it, to think they're still back in the days of slavery. I actually think, after studying all this ACORN stuff and reading what Stanley Kurtz has written about this, I actually believe that what has taken place here in addition to liberal Democrat legislation, such as the Great Society and the war on poverty, which a lot of people will now acknowledge really busted up the black family by the government taking the place of the husband and father, free to roam around and bear no responsibility. The mother remained the mother, she got the financial assistance from this legislation, from the federal government. The federal government became the father. The father didn't have to hang around in order for the kids to be okay, depending on how you define okay. But as you study more and more of this ACORN stuff, you find that it has been part of an entire movement that has been going on for two, maybe three decades, right under our noses.
We thought that it was just liberal welfare policies and all that that kept blacks from progressing while other minorities grew and prospered, but no, it is these wackos from Bill Ayers to Jeremiah Wright to other anti-American Afrocentric black liberation theologists with ACORN, and Barack Obama is smack dab in the middle of it, they have been training young black kids to hate, hate, hate this country, and they trained their parents before that to hate, hate, hate this country. It was a movement. It was a Bill Ayers, anti-capitalist, anti-American educational movement. ACORN is how it was implemented, right under our noses. They're doing far more, folks, than just cheating when it comes to elections and registration. They are in deep in this mortgage crisis. ACORN and Obama and Barney Frank and Chris Dodd, the Democrat Party, have their fingerprints all over the subprime mortgage crisis. The whole concept of affordable housing was people that can't afford a mortgage are going to get one, because America is unfair.
It has been a movement, it has been a religion, and Obama and Jeremiah Wright and William Ayers were all up to their big ears in it.

Gotta love ol' windbag there... nobody else was going to be ridiculous enough to tie Obama, ACORN, Reverend Wright, Bill Ayers, and Barney Frank together in one breath.
I still believe in liberalism today as much as I ever did, but, oh, there was a happy time when I believed in liberals.
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#2 2008-10-14 8:05 pm
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Re: ACORN! AYERS! N*****S!
Give him a little credit. He probably took at least a couple of breaths in the middle of the statement as he popped an oxycotin or two.
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#3 2008-10-14 8:05 pm
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Why anyone listens to the blathering of that fat old drug addict is beyond me.
"and it's not surprising that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
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#4 2008-10-14 8:16 pm
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Losing sucks.
"One thing we've learned is there's a difference between being disappointed and having madmen in authority."
--Paul Krugman
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#5 2008-10-14 8:21 pm
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Pariah wrote:
Why anyone listens to the blathering of that fat old drug addict is beyond me.
I think it's good to print his ramblings from time to time. The new kids on the block (Hannity, Weiner, et al) get more attention these days but the racist old junkie still has a huge listener base.
I still believe in liberalism today as much as I ever did, but, oh, there was a happy time when I believed in liberals.
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#6 2008-10-14 8:26 pm
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Oh MY F***ing GOD!!!! Is this guy for real???
Gotta agree with Tallgeese, who in the hell would be ridiculous enough to tie Obama, ACORN, Reverend Wright, Bill Ayers, and Barney Frank together in one breath.
Also be racist enough to say "I actually believe that what has taken place here in addition to liberal Democrat legislation, such as the Great Society and the war on poverty, which a lot of people will now acknowledge really busted up the black family by the government taking the place of the husband and father, free to roam around and bear no responsibility. The mother remained the mother, she got the financial assistance from this legislation, from the federal government. The federal government became the father. The father didn't have to hang around in order for the kids to be okay, depending on how you define okay. This guy talks out of his a**!! Get this over paid fat guy off the air!! 
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#7 2008-10-14 8:26 pm
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Just wait until after the election.
"One thing we've learned is there's a difference between being disappointed and having madmen in authority."
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#8 2008-10-14 9:09 pm
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A lack of economic opportunity among black men, and the shame and frustration that came from not being able to provide for one's family, contributed to the erosion of black families - a problem that welfare policies for many years may have worsened.
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That anger is not always productive; indeed, all too often it distracts attention from solving real problems; it keeps us from squarely facing our own complicity in our condition, and prevents the African-American community from forging the alliances it needs to bring about real change.
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For the African-American community, that path means embracing the burdens of our past without becoming victims of our past. It means continuing to insist on a full measure of justice in every aspect of American life. But it also means binding our particular grievances - for better health care, and better schools, and better jobs - to the larger aspirations of all Americans -- the white woman struggling to break the glass ceiling, the white man whose been laid off, the immigrant trying to feed his family. And it means taking full responsibility for own lives - by demanding more from our fathers, and spending more time with our children, and reading to them, and teaching them that while they may face challenges and discrimination in their own lives, they must never succumb to despair or cynicism; they must always believe that they can write their own destiny.
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#9 2008-10-14 9:13 pm
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Farmerkev wrote:
A lack of economic opportunity among black men, and the shame and frustration that came from not being able to provide for one's family, contributed to the erosion of black families - a problem that welfare policies for many years may have worsened.
.....
That anger is not always productive; indeed, all too often it distracts attention from solving real problems; it keeps us from squarely facing our own complicity in our condition, and prevents the African-American community from forging the alliances it needs to bring about real change.
....
For the African-American community, that path means embracing the burdens of our past without becoming victims of our past. It means continuing to insist on a full measure of justice in every aspect of American life. But it also means binding our particular grievances - for better health care, and better schools, and better jobs - to the larger aspirations of all Americans -- the white woman struggling to break the glass ceiling, the white man whose been laid off, the immigrant trying to feed his family. And it means taking full responsibility for own lives - by demanding more from our fathers, and spending more time with our children, and reading to them, and teaching them that while they may face challenges and discrimination in their own lives, they must never succumb to despair or cynicism; they must always believe that they can write their own destiny.
What a filthy, conservative, hate-mongering racist.
Just like back in Saigon! Eh, slick?
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#10 2008-10-14 9:16 pm
- Tallgeese
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Farmerkev wrote:
A lack of economic opportunity among black men, and the shame and frustration that came from not being able to provide for one's family, contributed to the erosion of black families - a problem that welfare policies for many years may have worsened.
.....
That anger is not always productive; indeed, all too often it distracts attention from solving real problems; it keeps us from squarely facing our own complicity in our condition, and prevents the African-American community from forging the alliances it needs to bring about real change.
....
For the African-American community, that path means embracing the burdens of our past without becoming victims of our past. It means continuing to insist on a full measure of justice in every aspect of American life. But it also means binding our particular grievances - for better health care, and better schools, and better jobs - to the larger aspirations of all Americans -- the white woman struggling to break the glass ceiling, the white man whose been laid off, the immigrant trying to feed his family. And it means taking full responsibility for own lives - by demanding more from our fathers, and spending more time with our children, and reading to them, and teaching them that while they may face challenges and discrimination in their own lives, they must never succumb to despair or cynicism; they must always believe that they can write their own destiny.
It looks like you're trying to make a point. Would you like to
• Elaborate on it
• Pretend that you are clever
?
I still believe in liberalism today as much as I ever did, but, oh, there was a happy time when I believed in liberals.
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#11 2008-10-14 9:18 pm
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CG5Addict wrote:
Oh MY F***ing GOD!!!! Is this guy for real???
Gotta agree with Tallgeese, who in the hell would be ridiculous enough to tie Obama, ACORN, Reverend Wright, Bill Ayers, and Barney Frank together in one breath.
Also be racist enough to say "I actually believe that what has taken place here in addition to liberal Democrat legislation, such as the Great Society and the war on poverty, which a lot of people will now acknowledge really busted up the black family by the government taking the place of the husband and father, free to roam around and bear no responsibility. The mother remained the mother, she got the financial assistance from this legislation, from the federal government. The federal government became the father. The father didn't have to hang around in order for the kids to be okay, depending on how you define okay. This guy talks out of his a**!! Get this over paid fat guy off the air!!
Aren't you voting for McCain?
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#12 2008-10-14 9:20 pm
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Re: ACORN! AYERS! N*****S!
Farmerkev wrote:
A lack of economic opportunity among black men, and the shame and frustration that came from not being able to provide for one's family, contributed to the erosion of black families - a problem that welfare policies for many years may have worsened.
.....
That anger is not always productive; indeed, all too often it distracts attention from solving real problems; it keeps us from squarely facing our own complicity in our condition, and prevents the African-American community from forging the alliances it needs to bring about real change.
....
For the African-American community, that path means embracing the burdens of our past without becoming victims of our past. It means continuing to insist on a full measure of justice in every aspect of American life. But it also means binding our particular grievances - for better health care, and better schools, and better jobs - to the larger aspirations of all Americans -- the white woman struggling to break the glass ceiling, the white man whose been laid off, the immigrant trying to feed his family. And it means taking full responsibility for own lives - by demanding more from our fathers, and spending more time with our children, and reading to them, and teaching them that while they may face challenges and discrimination in their own lives, they must never succumb to despair or cynicism; they must always believe that they can write their own destiny.
Not nearly enough Ayers, Obama, and ACORN for my taste. And where's Rev. Wright?
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#13 2008-10-14 9:22 pm
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You can read his entire speech online, lot's of Rev. Wright sprinkled throughout.
I found the similarities of some of the points to be striking.
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#14 2008-10-14 9:26 pm
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Farmerkev wrote:
You can read his entire speech online, lot's of Rev. Wright sprinkled throughout.
I found the similarities of some of the points to be striking.
That's interesting, I find the 'differences' (the grand liberal conspiracy between ACORN, Obama, and Ayers) to be what inspired this thread.
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#15 2008-10-14 9:30 pm
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bratboy wrote:
Farmerkev wrote:
You can read his entire speech online, lot's of Rev. Wright sprinkled throughout.
I found the similarities of some of the points to be striking.That's interesting, I find the 'differences' (the grand liberal conspiracy between ACORN, Obama, and Ayers) to be what inspired this thread.
I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it either. There is money and power, whole life careers in fact, to be had perpetuating the victim mentality.
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#16 2008-10-14 9:45 pm
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Re: ACORN! AYERS! N*****S!
Farmerkev wrote:
bratboy wrote:
Farmerkev wrote:
You can read his entire speech online, lot's of Rev. Wright sprinkled throughout.
I found the similarities of some of the points to be striking.That's interesting, I find the 'differences' (the grand liberal conspiracy between ACORN, Obama, and Ayers) to be what inspired this thread.
I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it either. There is money and power, whole life careers in fact, to be had perpetuating the victim mentality.
One key aspect of some versions of the victim mentality is the helpless feeling. This can result in inaction, such as not registering to vote.
Rush is playing both sides for his own profit. He is essentially stating that striving forward is good. But his ACORN argument is a red herring.
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#17 2008-10-14 9:48 pm
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Nefarious wrote:
Rush is playing both sides for his own profit.
Of course he is, he's partisan.
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#18 2008-10-14 9:52 pm
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Farmerkev wrote:
I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it either. There is money and power, whole life careers in fact, to be had perpetuating the victim mentality.
No, I'm going to go ahead and "dismiss" it.
The notion that liberals are interested in keeping people poor is complete bullsmurf.
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#19 2008-10-14 9:54 pm
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bratboy wrote:
Farmerkev wrote:
I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it either. There is money and power, whole life careers in fact, to be had perpetuating the victim mentality.
No, I'm going to go ahead and "dismiss" it.
The notion that liberals are interested in keeping people poor is complete bullsmurf.
I think you should give it more consideration.
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#20 2008-10-14 10:00 pm
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Re: ACORN! AYERS! N*****S!
Farmerkev wrote:
bratboy wrote:
Farmerkev wrote:
You can read his entire speech online, lot's of Rev. Wright sprinkled throughout.
I found the similarities of some of the points to be striking.That's interesting, I find the 'differences' (the grand liberal conspiracy between ACORN, Obama, and Ayers) to be what inspired this thread.
I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it either. There is money and power, whole life careers in fact, to be had perpetuating the victim mentality.
I know I wish the regressives (or as you like to call them "republicans") would quit playing victim at every turn. It's really smurfing old.
Poor sarah palin is being attacked blah blah blah
John Lewis said mean (true) things about McCane waaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!
It's the biggest wool over the eyes thing regressives do, incessant mock outrage and whining while they call anyone who wants to work to help people whiners when they think (haha) it's politically expedient.
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#21 2008-10-14 10:01 pm
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Without sounding racist, I hope; there is a certain 'inner city entitlement mentality' that seems to afflict a lot of people. It's a cross between entitlement and resentment or scorn for those they feel 'owe' them something. Certainly, not everyone who lives in the inner city feels this way, but having I have seen this attitude in nearly every big city I've either lived near or spent any appreciable time in.
I call it a welfare attitude, because almost invariably, the people who demonstrate it are on welfare, or some other form of public assistance. I understand it's not easy to get out of that sort of situation, but it seems as if a lot of folks don't even bother trying.
The situation in New Orleans leaps to mind. Rather than try to help themselves, a lot of people ended up angry that the government wasn't doing enough to help them. Cripes, folks; the city is flooding all around you - get your ass to higher ground. If higher ground isn't looking too good, go elsewhere where it is. This doesn't even touch on all the looting, burglary, and general thuggery you saw afterwards that you really didn't see in Galveston or other areas hard hit by hurricanes.
I'm not sure how we managed to create this 'entitlement' attitude, but we really need to examine it - because it's extremely corrosive to communities.
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#22 2008-10-14 10:06 pm
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radarman wrote:
This doesn't even touch on all the looting, burglary, and general thuggery you saw afterwards that you really didn't see in Galveston or other areas hard hit by hurricanes.

The situations were slightly different.
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#23 2008-10-14 10:07 pm
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And you can ascribe at least a part of that mentality to policies that were racist, to actions that were racist, and attitudes that were racist. Not all of what happens to those in the ghetto is their fault. Some of it is because they don't have much in the way of chance to do better. Ghettos are built by two types of people. Those who want to put people in them, and those who are seeking a way to evade responsibility. Our ghettos were building from the late 1860's onward.
Just remember, it takes an exceptional person to break out from despair and poverty. Most people aren't exceptional. Even those who are merely competent find it difficult to rise even a step from those beginnings. It can be done, but it is the exception, not the rule.
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#24 2008-10-14 10:24 pm
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Jesus Hussein Christ wept.
Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim. Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet." They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.
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#25 2008-10-14 10:26 pm
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JakeTheTall wrote:
Jesus Hussein Christ wept.
I always thought the H was for Hiram.
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