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Kripto wrote:

Maybe JTP can join NKOTB when his moment in the sun is done...

Who is JTP and what is NKOTB? I tried Googling but didn't find anything that seemed to make sense.

The picture of McCain making a funny face is a photoshop right?

I actually feel a little sorry for McCain after watching that clip. It's pretty obvious, when in motion, that it was just a silly face he made when he went the wrong way to shake hands...  something many of us probably might do.  But as a still it just makes him look terrible and goofy.

I'm going to go out on a limb...

Unlike some online commentary that has looked at polls and concluded that Obama has peaked, and that Nov. 4 will be a squeeker (much like, say 1976, which had Ford closing fast late) I think that McCampaign will appear in now 'battleground' states like FLA, NC, VA and OH (coming on this next swing) he will actually LOSE points in those states. Much as if someone had a W voodoo doll at work against him.

Follow tracking over the next week. And watch those states go bluer.

Last edited by daemon (2008-10-17 10:36 am)

daemon wrote:

I'm going to go out on a limb...

Unlike some online commentary that has looked at polls and concluded that Obama has peaked, and that Nov. 4 will be a squeeker (much like, say 1976, which had Ford closing fast late) I think that McCampaign will appear in now 'battleground' states like FLA, NC, VA and OH (coming on this next swing) he will actually LOSE points in those states. Much as if someone had a W voodoo doll at work against him.

Follow tracking over the next week. And watch those states go bluer.

You don't worry that the big chunk of "undecided" voters (and some who are polling for Obama) are actually racists who don't want to admit it?

I think McCrazee drives 'em away. To the half-white guy.

There is a large dose of robocalls underway also. I fear those more. However, it is a flip of the coin about the success of those vs. the loss of pissed off centrists/(racists.)

Like I said, out on a limb...but the numbers say the view is solid. And that only a major X factor can change the electorate.

bratboy wrote:

I don't feel too sorry for him, considering he basically made up the situation that he claimed would cause his taxes to go up under Obama when talking to him in front of the media.

Dude simply asked a what-if question. It wasn't off the wall or ridiculous and is certainly valid for many Americans. Tearing hi s life apart simply for daring to ask a question serves to let warn others what could happen if they don't just shut up and obey. Not quite progressive or open-minded.

daemon wrote:

thwack!
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14652.html

While the arc of Wurzelbacher’s breakneck trip through the news cycle – from private citizen to insta-celebrity to political target – offers a curious insight into the political media culture, it also appears to offer a glimpse into the McCain campaign’s on-the-fly decisionmaking style.

A McCain source said Thursday that the campaign read about Wurzelbacher on the Drudge Report, while another campaign aide confirmed that he was not vetted.

I wonder how Shnicky views this invasion of a citizens' private and personal life?
Simple what-if.

It is a question, it wasnt a trick question or loaded one, just a regular question. and for people who are confident in the plan of action they suppport being the right one it should be pretty simple to answer without focusing almost exclusively on the person who asked it.

Last edited by Steyr AUG (2008-10-17 11:54 am)

Steyr AUG wrote:

bratboy wrote:

I don't feel too sorry for him, considering he basically made up the situation that he claimed would cause his taxes to go up under Obama when talking to him in front of the media.

Dude simply asked a what-if question. It wasn't off the wall or ridiculous and is certainly valid for many Americans. Tearing hi s life apart simply for daring to ask a question serves to let warn others what could happen if they don't just shut up and obey. Not quite progressive or open-minded.

Is the Obama campaign "tearing his life apart," or is it the media that's simply asking questions about him ?

If the right can disavow nutters yelling at McCain / Palin rallies, who are being few lies and distortions by the McCain campaign, I think you should realize the Obama campaign =/= media outlets.

bratboy wrote:

Steyr AUG wrote:

Dude simply asked a what-if question. It wasn't off the wall or ridiculous and is certainly valid for many Americans.

Actually the percentage of "small businesses" that bring in that amount of profit is quite small.  I think the question was more rhetorical than it was hypothetical.

I worked for one, and it was by no means an anomaly.

Nobody is "tearing his life apart," and he seems to be quite content with the attention (he's probably given more interviews than Sarah Palin, if you hadn't noticed).

What was being discussed is the impression to others, ask an inconvenient question and get your life sifted through by dailykos bloggers everywhere. Its laughable for you to even assert that nobody is tearing his life apart.

Steyr AUG wrote:

bratboy wrote:

Steyr AUG wrote:

Dude simply asked a what-if question. It wasn't off the wall or ridiculous and is certainly valid for many Americans.

Actually the percentage of "small businesses" that bring in that amount of profit is quite small.  I think the question was more rhetorical than it was hypothetical.

I worked for one, and it was by no means an anomaly.

Nobody is "tearing his life apart," and he seems to be quite content with the attention (he's probably given more interviews than Sarah Palin, if you hadn't noticed).

What was being discussed is the impression to others, ask an inconvenient question and get your life sifted through by dailykos bloggers everywhere. Its laughable for you to even assert that nobody is tearing his life apart.

I love how the regressives trot out a parade of retards then blames the likes of daily kos (???!!!) for shining the light on them that they're begging for.

bratboy wrote:

Steyr AUG wrote:

I worked for one, and it was by no means an anomaly.

Taxable income?  Great!  Your anecdotal evidence notwithstanding....

Just matching the quality of your random guess.

Obama really hasn't made any secret of his tax proposal, so the question doesn't quite qualify as "inconvenient."

Further, it was quite obviously John McCain that brought all of this attention upon the guy.  I'm not asserting that it's "OK" to violate someone's privacy because they approach a candidate in front of the media and ask them a question, which is then used by the opposing candidate in a nationally televised debate--but if this guy were truly interested in avoiding the spotlight, he's going about it in a funny way.  He obviously welcomes the attention.

The prying started much earlier then when McCain talked about Joey in the debate. As soon as the video of the question started getting play, so did the blogging about the life of the questioner. They were also before he got interviewed.

Last edited by Steyr AUG (2008-10-17 12:23 pm)

Steyr AUG wrote:

bratboy wrote:

Steyr AUG wrote:

I worked for one, and it was by no means an anomaly.

Taxable income?  Great!  Your anecdotal evidence notwithstanding....

Just matching the quality of your random guess.

Obama really hasn't made any secret of his tax proposal, so the question doesn't quite qualify as "inconvenient."

Further, it was quite obviously John McCain that brought all of this attention upon the guy.  I'm not asserting that it's "OK" to violate someone's privacy because they approach a candidate in front of the media and ask them a question, which is then used by the opposing candidate in a nationally televised debate--but if this guy were truly interested in avoiding the spotlight, he's going about it in a funny way.  He obviously welcomes the attention.

The prying started much earlier then when McCain talked about Joey in the debate. As soon as the video of the question started getting play, so did the blogging about the life of the questioner. They were also before he got interviewed.

Come now. It started much earlier than that. How did he get on Drudge for McMonger's staff?