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The corporatists realize the house of cards they are sitting on.

Pretty obvious self interest

Fact id, tha once Obama wins we will be in for an obstructionist smurf that will make what happened to Clinton look like a spring tea party.
I listen in to right wing radio regularly and to hear those smurfs go on you'd think Obama was a genuine totalitarian Communist.
I would not be the least surprised to hear outright calls to violence from the right once he is sworn in.
There s a significant minority of the American population that falls for that crap, enough to make the few bombings by the left in the late sixties look like a fourth of July party.
The right has gone to seed, like the left had in the late sixties and early 70s, only with many more arms.
I expect real trouble coming, no hyperbole.

Pariah wrote:

Fact id, tha once Obama wins we will be in for an obstructionist smurf that will make what happened to Clinton look like a spring tea party.
I listen in to right wing radio regularly and to hear those smurfs go on you'd think Obama was a genuine totalitarian Communist.
I would not be the least surprised to hear outright calls to violence from the right once he is sworn in.
There s a significant minority of the American population that falls for that crap, enough to make the few bombings by the left in the late sixties look like a fourth of July party.
The right has gone to seed, like the left had in the late sixties and early 70s, only with many more arms.
I expect real trouble coming, no hyperbole.

If they think they can do that, I think they haven't learned that Obama is a quick study and learns from not only his mistakes, but the mistakes of others.  The Democrats he's surrounding himself, many President Clinton personnel, are well aware of what the Republicans will try and just as Obama has prepared for legal actions after the elections, not doubt he's preparing for that also.

One advantage Obama may have over Clinton is Clinton had a Republican Congress throughout the span of his terms. Obama looks like he may at least start with a Democratic Congress which may lessen the obstructionism some.

Palin:  Obama equals communism.

"See, under a big government, more tax agenda, what you thought was yours would really start belonging to somebody else, to everybody else. If you thought your income, your property, your inventory, your investments were, were yours, they would really collectively belong to everybody. Obama, Barack Obama has an ideological commitment to higher taxes, and I say this based on his record... Higher taxes, more government, misusing the power to tax leads to government moving into the role of some believing that government then has to take care of us. And government kind of moving into the role as the other half of our family, making decisions for us. Now, they do this in other countries where the people are not free. Let us fight for what is right. John McCain and I, we will put our trust in you."

Link.

Robert B. wrote:

That's an interesting point that Pariah brings up. The '90s a witches brew for militia activity and Bill Clinton the obvious target for anti-government derision and spite. The reason they fizzled was the attention that was heaped upon them after the bombing of the Oklahoma federal building. It will be interesting to see if the militias become active again should Hussein Obama be elected.

Exactly. The rightwing militants were temporarily set back when McVeigh blew up downtown here. Fact is, had he not smurfed up and been driving away without a plate on his car he might never have been caught.
This ain't no liberal fantasy here, there are hard core Militia cells all over the Northern Great lakes region and in the southeast. Just do some research.
There are thousands of scary Posse Comitatus types out there, armed to the smurfing teeth. They already have hardened emplacements and a well honed ideology of paranoia and anger.
Heck. I have met in person these types. I had a former friend get in with that bunch about 25 years ago and he, alone, owned over a dozen fully automatic machine guns. He was one of the last to get a federal license to own such things before they clamped down on that nonsense.
Those smurf have been festering in their juices for 13 years now and I can only imagine their reaction to a liberal smurf being elected president.
It's one of their twisted prophesies come true.

A smurf at the command of this God blessed white nation......

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Is there any hope that the right-wing psychosis-screaming might be falling on mostly deaf ears? That over time they might wind up as voices in the wilderness, culturally speaking?

No.

I think the youtube poster is a coward for disabling comments.

jerwin wrote:

transcript.

Thanks.  Great site.  It can come over to my house and ... er... leave my sister alone. 

WEST: You may recognize this famous quote. From each according to his abilities to each according to his needs. That’s from Karl Marx. How is Sen. Obama not being a Marxist if he intends to spread the wealth around?

BIDEN: Are you joking? Is this a joke?

WEST: No.

BIDEN: Is that a real question?

WEST: It’s a real question.

How did they put it?  "Gotcha media?"  Is that what this kind of thing is being called now, or is it reserved for questions from voters in a crowd who are not also part of the media?

freecat wrote:

Yeah well the same people thought Clinton was a communist. A free-trade, welfare-reforming communist.

... kind of similar to how Bush is painted as some sort of ultra free-market Friedmanite.

Painted by whom?

zeitgeist wrote:

WEST: You may recognize this famous quote. From each according to his abilities to each according to his needs. That’s from Karl Marx.

Noam Chomsky wrote:

Challenging journalists at the Democratic Convention in July 1988 on the constant reference to Michael Dukakis as "too liberal" to win, the media watch organization Fairness and Accurary In Reporting (FAIR) cited a December 1987 New York Times/CBS poll showing overwhelming popular support for government guarantees of full employment, medical and day care, and a 3-to-1 margin in favor of reduction of military expenses among the 50 percent of the population who approve of a change. But the choice of a Reagan-style Democrat for vice president elicited only praise from the media for the pragmatism of the Democrats in resisting the left-wing extremists who called for policies supported by a large majority of the population. Popular attitudes, in fact, continued to move towards a kind of New Deal-style liberalism through the 1980s, while "liberal" became an unspeakable word in political rhetoric. Polls show that almost half the population believe that the U.S. Constitution -- a sacred document -- is the source of Marx's phrase "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need," so obviously right does the sentiment seem.

source

Of course, Marx was quoting someone else. Perhaps James Madison?

I kid. Louis Blanc said it first

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What the bourgeois do not realize is that it goes hand in hand wit another socialist maxim.

He who does not work, neither shall he eat

Since capitalism is not work, they shall be deprived of their parasitism and asked to make a honest living. But since they have no experience with hard work, accustomed as they are to living off the sweat of other men's brows, their abilities will be comparatively few. But the rest of society will make sure that what needs they have will be met. The bourgeois have noting to fear, for they will benefit!