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#26 2008-11-15 3:13 am

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Re: Man Having Another Baby!!!

Children, Flemish Merchants, Red Indians and sort of Florentine style [etc] first. Pilots last.

Kind of like the Capt. going down with the ship. tongue


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#27 2008-11-15 3:27 am

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Re: Man Having Another Baby!!!

radarman wrote:

I've seen some crazy fetishes, mostly out of Japan; but lactating for sexual purposes? Wow. That's a new one.

May be an urban legend - but I heard of a case where a man and his pregnant wife were stranded, she died in child birth, he ate the placenta to stimulate lactation and nursed the infant.


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#28 2008-11-15 8:37 am

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Re: Man Having Another Baby!!!

resedit wrote:

radarman wrote:

I've seen some crazy fetishes, mostly out of Japan; but lactating for sexual purposes? Wow. That's a new one.

May be an urban legend - but I heard of a case where a man and his pregnant wife were stranded, she died in child birth, he ate the placenta to stimulate lactation and nursed the infant.

Yeah, that just might be a fairy tale. hmm


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#29 2008-11-15 8:39 am

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Re: Man Having Another Baby!!!

I don't know... you can lactate without milk ducts and glands, right?


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#30 2008-11-15 8:54 am

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Re: Man Having Another Baby!!!

Mrs. Stratosphere is claiming that the plumbing exists for a male human to lactate. roll


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#31 2008-11-15 8:57 am

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Re: Man Having Another Baby!!!

http://www.menstuff.org/issues/byissue/ … ation.html
and

The phenomenon of male lactation in humans has become more common in recent years due to the use of medications that stimulate a man's mammary glands. Though boys and men have nipples, many are unaware that they also have mammary glands. In ordinary circumstances, there is so little mammary tissue that it is unnoticeable; if the male breasts develop visibly, the condition is called gynecomastia. Under the appropriate hormonal stimulus—that nature provides to human females when they become pregnant and give birth—the mammary glands of human males can also produce milk.[1] The volume of milk produced is low relative to that of a lactating female. Newborn baby boys (and girls) can occasionally produce milk because of the intense hormones involved in their mother's pregnancy and the hours of childbirth; this is called witch's milk.
Male lactation is most commonly caused by hormonal treatments given to men suffering from prostate cancer. Female hormones are used to slow the production of cancerous prostate tissue, but the same hormones also stimulate the mammary glands. Male-to-female transsexuals may also produce milk owing to the hormones they take to reshape their bodies. It can occasionally be a side-effect of antipsychotic medication. Extreme stress combined with demanding physical activity and a shortage of food has also been known to cause male lactation. The phenomenon occurred in survivors of the liberated Nazi concentration camps after World War II.[1] Some American POWs returning from the Korean and Vietnam Wars also experienced male lactation. Anthropologist Barry Hewlett has observed male breastfeeding among certain Pygmies of central Africa for whom "male and female roles are virtually interchangeable".[2] The phenomenon has also been observed in isolated cases in other parts of the world.[3]

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_lactation


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#32 2008-11-15 1:32 pm

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Re: Man Having Another Baby!!!

bedstuy wrote:

Why do you care, and what business is it of yours, what someone does with their body?

Just made a topic for view of your thoughts on this, nothing more, nothing less.

Tallgeese wrote:

He needs to know who next to vote rights away from.

You need to get the prop 8 thread, for this is a completely differently subject. All your trying to do is drag that drama into this thread. roll


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#33 2008-11-15 3:03 pm

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Re: Man Having Another Baby!!!

Duke Stratosphere wrote:

resedit wrote:

radarman wrote:


I've seen some crazy fetishes, mostly out of Japan; but lactating for sexual purposes? Wow. That's a new one.

May be an urban legend - but I heard of a case where a man and his pregnant wife were stranded, she died in child birth, he ate the placenta to stimulate lactation and nursed the infant.

Yeah, that just might be a fairy tale. hmm

It's possible, I can't find a specific reference to it online - but I suspect the placenta would have the hormones that could stimulate it.
But because I can't find a reference online, I think it may be an urban legend.


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#34 2008-11-15 3:26 pm

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Re: Man Having Another Baby!!!

The definitions of 'man' and 'male' do not include the capability to bear a baby.   This is a non-story - she is still a woman.  A woman with confused secondary sex characteristics due to hormonal and surgical tampering, yes, but a woman. 

I can see myself accepting her as a man once she finishes the conversion and is no longer able to bear live young.  At that point I'll stop saying "she" and "her" in favor of the "he" and "him" that she seems to prefer.  Until then, social, political, and moral issues aren't really relevant: it's a simple matter of biology. 

If my definition is a little more flexible than others in this thread, a little more rigid than others.  I'm comfortable with that.

Want my take on the social, political, and moral issue?  Fine.  I'm on record as being in favor of permitting gay marriage... which is what she and her wife are in until one of them is a male.  That's cool; there's nothing wrong with it.  Like I said: this isn't news.

No matter how things go, I seriously doubt that she will care what we have to say about it. shrug


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#35 2008-11-15 3:28 pm

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Re: Man Having Another Baby!!!

Duke Stratosphere wrote:

Mrs. Stratosphere is claiming that the plumbing exists for a male human to lactate. roll

Oh, that's sweet. Is she planning something special for your anniversary? wink


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#36 2008-11-15 4:37 pm

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Re: Man Having Another Baby!!!

CG5Addict wrote:

bedstuy wrote:

Why do you care, and what business is it of yours, what someone does with their body?

Just made a topic for view of your thoughts on this, nothing more, nothing less.

With all due respect, your third post in this thread contradicts that assertion.

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#37 2008-11-15 5:04 pm

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Re: Man Having Another Baby!!!

resedit wrote:

In the species Homo sapien a male has the heterozygous chromosome pair XY while the female has the homozygous chromosome pair XX.

There are some anomalies that can occur, such as Klinefelter's syndrome, but those are abnormal for the species and I do not believe play a role in this scenario. I believe they are usually infertile and always have male reproductive organs.

EDIT -

heterozygous/homozygous are probably the wrong terms, I think those are alleles - not chromosomes.
I'm too tired to look up the proper term now.

Actually, being XXY is pretty common. Something like 1/1000 people are XXY. shrug

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#38 2008-11-15 5:12 pm

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Re: Man Having Another Baby!!!

What would really be best is if we all just didnt care. I wish we could just let people choose their rolls and lifestyles without making a smurfing federal case out of it.

We are seriously lacking in some beneficial apathy.

I do not care what you do in your personal life and I sure hope you extend me the same courtesy.


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#39 2008-11-15 6:12 pm

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Re: Man Having Another Baby!!!

Aqua OS X wrote:

resedit wrote:

In the species Homo sapien a male has the heterozygous chromosome pair XY while the female has the homozygous chromosome pair XX.

There are some anomalies that can occur, such as Klinefelter's syndrome, but those are abnormal for the species and I do not believe play a role in this scenario. I believe they are usually infertile and always have male reproductive organs.

EDIT -

heterozygous/homozygous are probably the wrong terms, I think those are alleles - not chromosomes.
I'm too tired to look up the proper term now.

Actually, being XXY is pretty common. Something like 1/1000 people are XXY. shrug

1 in a 1000 is not common.


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#40 2008-11-15 6:40 pm

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Re: Man Having Another Baby!!!

I just now figured out XYZ's user name.

Man, I'm slow sometimes.


Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.

Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.

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#41 2008-11-15 6:51 pm

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Re: Man Having Another Baby!!!

user wrote:

I just now figured out XYZ's user name.

Man, I'm slow sometimes.

Sometimes confused
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#42 2008-11-15 6:51 pm

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Re: Man Having Another Baby!!!

user wrote:

I just now figured out XYZ's user name.

Man, I'm slow sometimes.

Humans do not have W or Z chromosomes.
So what does the Z refer to?


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#43 2008-11-15 6:56 pm

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Re: Man Having Another Baby!!!

resedit wrote:

Aqua OS X wrote:

resedit wrote:

In the species Homo sapien a male has the heterozygous chromosome pair XY while the female has the homozygous chromosome pair XX.

There are some anomalies that can occur, such as Klinefelter's syndrome, but those are abnormal for the species and I do not believe play a role in this scenario. I believe they are usually infertile and always have male reproductive organs.

EDIT -

heterozygous/homozygous are probably the wrong terms, I think those are alleles - not chromosomes.
I'm too tired to look up the proper term now.

Actually, being XXY is pretty common. Something like 1/1000 people are XXY. shrug

1 in a 1000 is not common.

Not exactly a number to sneeze at either. There are about the the same ratio of males with XYY and there's roughly the same ratio of females with XXX.

Rough estimate based on world population, thats 3,388,960 XXXers, 3,399,969 XXYers & 3,399,969 XYYers.

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#44 2008-11-15 9:02 pm

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No - it's not a number to sneeze at.
It's still an anomaly however, and they are abnormal for the species.

Last edited by resedit (2008-11-15 9:03 pm)


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#45 2008-11-15 9:06 pm

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Re: Man Having Another Baby!!!

Isn't tabloid T.V. fun!??!!

Really. Who gives a crap. The woman that wants to be a man got smurfed and is preggers. Neat!

Move along.


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#46 2008-11-15 9:20 pm

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Re: Man Having Another Baby!!!

Duke Stratosphere wrote:

Mrs. Stratosphere is claiming that the plumbing exists for a male human to lactate. :roll:

Oddly enough, I had a close call with this. I developed a lump in my left breast, necessitating the need for a biopsy. Fortunately, it turned out to be a benign, fluid-filled cyst - but for a while, my doctor thought I had breast cancer. To say the least, I was a bit surprised such a thing was even possible in men. Of course, I was also ridiculously freaked out, but in a surreal sort of way.

I suppose if there is enough breast tissue in males to get cancer, there is probably enough to squeeze out a drop or two of milk as well.

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#47 2008-11-15 9:37 pm

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Re: Man Having Another Baby!!!

radarman wrote:

Duke Stratosphere wrote:

Mrs. Stratosphere is claiming that the plumbing exists for a male human to lactate. roll

Oddly enough, I had a close call with this. I developed a lump in my left breast, necessitating the need for a biopsy. Fortunately, it turned out to be a benign, fluid-filled cyst - but for a while, my doctor thought I had breast cancer. To say the least, I was a bit surprised such a thing was even possible in men. Of course, I was also ridiculously freaked out, but in a surreal sort of way.

I suppose if there is enough breast tissue in males to get cancer, there is probably enough to squeeze out a drop or two of milk as well.

I believe there is a culture in Africa where men regularly breast feed.


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#48 2008-11-15 11:23 pm

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Lactating Larry

Possibly NSFW, but what the hell are you doing reading MiniThink at work?


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#49 2008-11-15 11:35 pm

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Re: Man Having Another Baby!!!

jerwin wrote:

Lactating Larry

Possibly NSFW, but what the hell are you doing reading MiniThink at work?

Man boobs are OK - only Woman boobs are evil and must be censored into oblivion.

Or something like that.


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#50 2008-11-15 11:59 pm

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Re: Man Having Another Baby!!!

Curiously, a sci-fi show I was watching featured a scene with a man that had both pierced nipples and a pierced belly button.

Strangely, the previous scene had the serpentine antagonist discretely shielding our eyes from the man's naked left buttock.

Censors. Can't live with 'em, can't blow their sad little pea-sized brains out.


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