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ukimalefu wrote:

Doesn't everybody selling something do this?

Have you seen the price of an HP or Alienware computer? And you have to use Windows!

Or you can try and build a Hackintosh.

*sigh*
(waits for Pariah's reply)

If you build a Hackintosh from the ground up it's much easier than trying to convert an existing PC into a hackintosh, as if you build it with OS X in mind you can ensure that all the components are well supported.

On an aside note,

I was given the choice between a MBP or a Windows laptop before I left home for University.
I could have gotten the $2000 CAD entry level MBP.

But instead I got the Asus M50VM-B4 for $1500, which is even better than the latest generation of MBPs. And Asus uses quality parts, not to mention that when it comes to additional bells and whistles, Asus included a good quality laptop bag with the computer.

On the service factor, the Western Digital HDD in my notebook turned out to have some irreperable bad sectors on it. I sent it to their service facility, and received my fixed computer 3 business days later. (Shipped one day, repaired and returned the next, received on the third day). The 2 year limited parts and service warranty, combined with 1 year of Accidental Damage coverage makes the service I have from Asus better than anything Apple could offer me.

I stopped being a fan of Apple when the G5 completely replaced all the G4 towers, and Apple never offered another mid-end tower.

Last edited by Some1 (2008-11-25 12:06 pm)

If you add a port you MUST assume it will be used. Also remember, on a desktop or otherwise plugged system, power drain is less important but on a battery powered system it makes a lot of difference.

Also check your math (I'm sure you plugged in the numbers backwards)
2.5w @ 5V is 0.5A
The erroneous 7w @ 12V is 0.5833A
The correct 15w @ 18-24V is 0.625A-0.833A


Yes there is a processor overlap between the high end MB & low end MBP but in my experience a 2.8 GHz with faster FSB & RAM is faster than 2.8 GHz with slower FSB & RAM.

Ok I'm willing to stand corrected? What brand & model?

ScifiterX wrote:

If you add a port you MUST assume it will be used. Also remember, on a desktop or otherwise plugged system, power drain is less important but on a battery powered system it makes a lot of difference.

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I HAVE NEVER EVER SEEN anyone with a laptop have ALL of their accessories plugged in at ALL times.
It should be my choice if I want to plug something in ... not yours where it's going to effect to battery life so bad because someone may plug something in that port. Quick better remove the radios, air-conditioners, ect out of cars because someone may use them ... Quick remove all lights from your house because someone may use them.

ScifiterX wrote:

Also check your math (I'm sure you plugged in the numbers backwards)
2.5w @ 5V is 0.5A
The erroneous 7w @ 12V is 0.5833A
The correct 15w @ 18-24V is 0.625A-0.833A

I know thats why I removed it ... and since I am not a moderator my posts show when they are edited

ScifiterX wrote:

Yes there is a processor overlap between the high end MB & low end MBP but in my experience a 2.8 GHz with faster FSB & RAM is faster than 2.8 GHz with slower FSB & RAM.

The base and 2.4 MBs are more than capable to edit video ... just because a 3.0 Octcore Mac Pro is faster doesn't mean my imac isn't fine for most of what I do. Same with the MBs ... and it sure isn't worth the $1000+ extra for the pro models .. when apple is known for just plug it in and it works ... that is complete bullsmurf now. The FW port is a HUGE benefit to the apple computers. The pros severely out weight the cons.  Period.   Not having it is just being a rat.

Last edited by mrreet2001 (2008-11-25 12:49 pm)

ScifiterX wrote:

Ok I'm willing to stand corrected? What brand & model?

It's a Westinghouse, not sure of the model, I'll check later.

Some1 wrote:

I stopped being a fan of Apple when the G5 completely replaced all the G4 towers, and Apple never offered another mid-end tower.

I am curious as to what G4 tower you consider mid-end? and it's price.

mrreet2001 wrote:

Some1 wrote:

I stopped being a fan of Apple when the G5 completely replaced all the G4 towers, and Apple never offered another mid-end tower.

I am curious as to what G4 tower you consider mid-end? and it's price.

These?

The Quicksilver PowerMac was available in three configurations: The 733 MHz model, with 128 MB of RAM, a 40 GB hard drive, and a CD-RW drive, was $1,699...

The starting price of a Mac Pro is more than the midrange tower 7 years ago. (Although it's only $2,299 if you knock the standard basic configuration back to a single quad core.)

But price is the determining factor.

What I'm hearing people like Pariah say they want is something a little more scaled back than the Mac Pro. Like The single-CPU G4s that were usually available as low end models even when the Dual-CPU machines were increasingly prevalent. (My dad got his as an "education only" model for ~$1300)

As for a PC equivalent, probably something like this.

ScifiterX wrote:

dvpierce wrote:

mrreet2001 wrote:

If you want a system raped of most of it's ports and drives go buy an Air.

Aww, come on, the poor guy already uses a Mini.

And short of games not hurting a bit. There's no constant connecting & disconnecting of power cords & port replicators and a power battery is not an issue being on a desktop.

Right. An Air would be even worse.

Anyway, I hope you two have a long and happy honeymoon.

I, however, know what you're missing.

We actually had the top-end PowerMac G4 DigiAudio (the one of the superdrive), but I'm pretty sure my family got it the same year I had joined these Forums, and as such it was much cheaper. But even then the lower end versions ran at $1500 brand new according to that website.

My older sister still has it as a matter of fact, and it still works.
Her first desktop was the 1999 PowerMac G4 (AGP Graphics), the lowest end model, the 350Mhz CPU, that ceased to function, although I'm sure I could get it running again pretty easily.

Both those desktops were priced at consumer range, and considering how the price of desktops has dropped considerably for the most part over these past few years, I'd say they were competively priced compared to any PC of the same specs.

Last edited by Some1 (2008-11-25 2:35 pm)

dvpierce wrote:

mrreet2001 wrote:

Some1 wrote:

I stopped being a fan of Apple when the G5 completely replaced all the G4 towers, and Apple never offered another mid-end tower.

I am curious as to what G4 tower you consider mid-end? and it's price.

These?

The Quicksilver PowerMac was available in three configurations: The 733 MHz model, with 128 MB of RAM, a 40 GB hard drive, and a CD-RW drive, was $1,699...

The starting price of a Mac Pro is more than the midrange tower 7 years ago. (Although it's only $2,299 if you knock the standard basic configuration back to a single quad core.)

But price is the determining factor.

What I'm hearing people like Pariah say they want is something a little more scaled back than the Mac Pro. Like The single-CPU G4s that were usually available as low end models even when the Dual-CPU machines were increasingly prevalent. (My dad got his as an "education only" model for ~$1300)

As for a PC equivalent, probably something like this.

I agree the mac pros are priced way to high ... but some1 was saying that there was never a mid end G5

http://apple-history.com/?page=gallery& … amp;range=

because this guy fit the bill just fine (when compared to the power g4 offerings. )

This is just like the trim on a vehicle (right down to color options).

Hey, at least Apple gives us a high quality OS at a fraction of the price (not to mention confusion) of M$. But those aren't exactly lofty standards either.

I have by no means given up as I remain a repeat Apple customer. Being so I can say that I've never been treated better than at my local Apple Store. They have repeatedy bent over backwards for me and have gonr way above and beyond on more than even a few instances. Oustanding is all I can say regarding my local Apple Store which in concept is really one of Apple's best moves. I think Apple gives it's store managers the okay to make decisions on a case by case basis which is a humanistic approach.