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#1 2008-11-21 10:38 pm
eHarmony case
eHarmony is a dating service.
They now have to have a section for gay dating.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-e … 2906.story
The Pasadena-based dating website, heavily promoted by Christian evangelical leaders when it was founded, has agreed in a civil rights settlement to give up its heterosexuals-only policy and offer same-sex matches.
EHarmony -- known for the mild-mannered television and radio advertisements by its founder, psychologist Neil Clark Warren -- not only must implement the new policy by March 31 but also must give the first 10,000 same-sex registrants a free six-month subscription.
"That was one of the things I asked for," said Eric McKinley, 46, who complained to New Jersey's Division on Civil Rights, part of the state's attorney general's office, after being turned down for a subscription in 2005.
The company said that Warren wasn't giving interviews on the settlement. But attorney Theodore Olson, who issued a statement on EHarmony's behalf, made clear that the company didn't agree to offer gay matches willingly.
What the smurf?
There a numerous places where gay individuals can go online and find dates.
Why did this guy want to force eHarmony to provide a service he did not agree with, when the service is extremely readily available elsewhere?
This actually gives some weight to the fears evangelicals have that if gay marriage is legal, it's not long until churches are forced to perform them.
This is bull smurf.
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#2 2008-11-21 10:51 pm
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If this thread expands into argument, it will basically divide into two sides:
a) the right of a business owner to run his business as he likes
b) business owners long ago losing the right to keep blacks out of their places
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#3 2008-11-21 11:08 pm
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Gays can use the service - they just do not offer a same sex service, just like they don't offer a S&M service for hetero couples.
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#4 2008-11-21 11:16 pm
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The difference being a homosexual is almost always looking for a same sex relationship. Some whose is into S&M is sometimes just looking for a good relationship rather than just a good time.
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#5 2008-11-22 12:02 am
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And there are numerous websites for people looking for homosexual relationships.
eHarmony should not be required to provide it if they don't want to.
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#6 2008-11-22 12:33 am
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Shut the smurf up, res.
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#7 2008-11-22 12:49 am
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Separate but equal !
Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim. Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet." They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.
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#8 2008-11-22 12:58 am
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resedit wrote:
And there are numerous websites for people looking for homosexual relationships.
eHarmony should not be required to provide it if they don't want to.
That really depends on the laws of the state.
In some states, for example, country clubs are allowed to discriminate membership based on race (like in NC), and in some states, they are forced to consider all races equally for membership.
If eHarmony's rejection of gays was purely because they didn't want to (and not because they couldn't), and NJ's laws says they can't discriminate based on that, then by the law (which is reasonable I think), they have to allow them.
I don't see what the problem is given those conditions.
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#9 2008-11-22 1:15 am
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Does this mean that gay dating sites have to provide a section for heterosexuals?
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#10 2008-11-22 3:33 am
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http://www.gaylesbianintroduction.com/company.html
Doesn't seem like they cater to straight people.
Should I file suit?
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#11 2008-11-22 6:26 am
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resedit wrote:
http://www.gaylesbianintroduction.com/company.html
Doesn't seem like they cater to straight people.
Should I file suit?
the rights of the majority never need protecting.
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#12 2008-11-22 7:14 am
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NoExit wrote:
resedit wrote:
http://www.gaylesbianintroduction.com/company.html
Doesn't seem like they cater to straight people.
Should I file suit?the rights of the majority never need protecting.
So if a KFC refused to sell to me because I'm white, that's not an issue?
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#13 2008-11-22 7:20 am
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Long time no post, NoExit.
I'm not a doctor but I'll take a look!
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#14 2008-11-22 7:20 am
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Back to the real question though - if gays can (and are) taking action to force dating services that don't want to cater to them to do so, then is there not valid fear for the churches that gays will try to force them to perform gay marriages?
This kind of thing is the worst thing the gay community can do. This kind of thing is exactly what mobilized the religious right to want to "protect traditional marriage".
This is sermon material. This will be preached in churches across the country as proof positive that gays want to force their lifestyle on others and force churches to perform homosexual weddings.
Watch and see.
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#15 2008-11-22 8:51 am
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NoExit wrote:
resedit wrote:
http://www.gaylesbianintroduction.com/company.html
Doesn't seem like they cater to straight people.
Should I file suit?the rights of the majority never need protecting.
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(please note: I am not making a comparison of situations, but I am claiming that glib recitation of a cliché is no argument)
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#16 2008-11-22 8:51 am
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resedit wrote:
http://www.gaylesbianintroduction.com/company.html
Doesn't seem like they cater to straight people.
Should I file suit?
Knock yourself out.
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#17 2008-11-22 9:56 am
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resedit wrote:
Back to the real question though - if gays can (and are) taking action to force dating services that don't want to cater to them to do so, then is there not valid fear for the churches that gays will try to force them to perform gay marriages?
This kind of thing is the worst thing the gay community can do. This kind of thing is exactly what mobilized the religious right to want to "protect traditional marriage".
This is sermon material. This will be preached in churches across the country as proof positive that gays want to force their lifestyle on others and force churches to perform homosexual weddings.
Watch and see.
"the worst thing the gay community can do"
Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim. Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet." They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.
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#19 2008-11-22 10:19 am
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Here's something for you to bitch about Res, Curves! How do women rate that when we can't have a real men's only health and fitness club. When we have/want one women alway sue their way into them or to prevent it from happening. Yet They can have a whole damn chain of women's only health and fitness clubs of their own.
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#20 2008-11-22 10:23 am
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I suspect Rez has a better understanding of what evangelicals will do than many people here trying to mock him do.
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#21 2008-11-22 10:30 am
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I know exactly what they will do in this sort of situation. Either they will close up shop in protest or they will profit from doing business while loudly protesting the fact they have to. Those whom chose the later route may also sue sites which don't cater to heterosexuals because misery loves company.
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#22 2008-11-22 10:31 am
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Demanding equal rights.
The worst thing gay people can do.
Dammit, homos, stop gettin' uppity!
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#23 2008-11-22 10:46 am
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You should also know I only half mock res. I find that whenever a large corporation tries to force it ethic on it's customers a bit disturbing.
BTW Dan I'm warning you now that the next time you tell someone to STFU, I will start pressing for at least a a week's break from the forums for you.
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#24 2008-11-22 10:54 am
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resedit wrote:
Gays can use the service - they just do not offer a same sex service
The real problem here seems to be that Res has trouble distinguishing the difference between “Equality” and “Equity.”
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#25 2008-11-22 11:08 am
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Onthebeach wrote:
Does this mean that gay dating sites have to provide a section for heterosexuals?
This, IMHO, is the best question asked so far.
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Or am I comparing apples to pomegranates?
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