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#126 2008-11-25 7:55 pm

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Re: eHarmony case

I do agree that the situation is rather stupid. Why would you want to work with a dating service that opposes your very existence?


Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.

Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.

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#127 2008-11-25 9:43 pm

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Re: eHarmony case

I looked at several ... as in more than ten ... online dating services at random. All of them have a popup menu that pretty much consists of the following choices:

Man looking for a woman
Woman looking for a man
Man looking for a man
Woman looking for a woman

I assume by all the fuss that eHarmony is somewhat less accomodating to the lunatic fringe. Big deal. Go somewhere else.


"Make the most of the hemp seed.  Sow it everywhere."  --George Washington (No party)

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#128 2008-11-25 9:54 pm

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Re: eHarmony case

Duke Stratosphere wrote:

I looked at several ... as in more than ten ... online dating services at random. All of them have a popup menu that pretty much consists of the following choices:

Man looking for a woman
Woman looking for a man
Man looking for a man
Woman looking for a woman

I assume by all the fuss that eHarmony is somewhat less accomodating to the lunatic fringe. Big deal. Go somewhere else.

That's so limiting.

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9021/genderqd7.png


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#129 2008-11-25 10:08 pm

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Re: eHarmony case

freecat wrote:

bratboy wrote:

I'm curious as to what he meant by 'public' facilities.  When I hear 'public,' I think government.  Freecat is no dummy and I assume he knows exactly what he's talking about, but obviously discrimination has been prohibited in more than simply 'public' run facilities.

That's true and lunch counters are one thing. Segregated public schools, water fountains in state buildings, and city buses are another. In my view it makes no sense to abolish private discrimination. Why not abolish stupidity while you're at it.

No sense to abolish private discrimination, such as allowing employers to chose their employees based on their race, gender, religion, nationality ?


Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim.  Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet."  They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.

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#130 2008-11-26 1:25 am

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Re: eHarmony case

Duke Stratosphere wrote:

I assume by all the fuss that eHarmony is somewhat less accomodating to the lunatic fringe. Big deal. Go somewhere else.

"Lunatic fringe?"  smurf you.


"One thing we've learned is there's a difference between being disappointed and having madmen in authority."

                                                                   --Paul Krugman

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#131 2008-11-26 1:59 am

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Re: eHarmony case

JakeTheTall wrote:

freecat wrote:

bratboy wrote:

I'm curious as to what he meant by 'public' facilities.  When I hear 'public,' I think government.  Freecat is no dummy and I assume he knows exactly what he's talking about, but obviously discrimination has been prohibited in more than simply 'public' run facilities.

That's true and lunch counters are one thing. Segregated public schools, water fountains in state buildings, and city buses are another. In my view it makes no sense to abolish private discrimination. Why not abolish stupidity while you're at it.

No sense to abolish private discrimination, such as allowing employers to chose their employees based on their race, gender, religion, nationality ?

Yes. It's called freedom of association. For one thing, is all such discrimination wrong? Is it wrong that a historically black college might pass me over in favor of an African-American candidate? I don't think so. That's the upside of free association. The downside is, no matter how disgusting it is to you, someone should be free to found a David Duke College somewhere that only hires white male protestants who sign some kooky Statement of Faith. You can't have good freedom without bad.

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#132 2008-11-26 5:38 am

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Re: eHarmony case

bratboy wrote:

Duke Stratosphere wrote:

I assume by all the fuss that eHarmony is somewhat less accomodating to the lunatic fringe. Big deal. Go somewhere else.

"Lunatic fringe?"  smurf you.

And now you knock it off.


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#133 2008-11-26 7:52 am

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Re: eHarmony case

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9021/genderqd7.png

There's a really good point. If eHarmony can be coerced into creating a whole gay dating site, then theoretically all these other online dating services could be coerced into fleshing out their gender choice menus with all of the above choices and maybe even more.

And I don't even know what half of those choices actually mean! lol


"Make the most of the hemp seed.  Sow it everywhere."  --George Washington (No party)

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#134 2008-11-26 9:09 am

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Re: eHarmony case

If I had to guess, "gender fluid" means you kinda oscillate between the two?

"Genderqueer" is making me draw a blank.

Anyways, I think this probably all comes back to the folks at eHarmony assuming that homosexuals do nothing but have sex and never actually seek a relationship. Why that's such a common thought, I dunno, but I hear and see it a lot.

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#135 2008-11-26 11:15 am

Duke Stratosphere
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Re: eHarmony case

Gurlugon wrote:

If I had to guess, "gender fluid" means you kinda oscillate between the two?

"Genderqueer" is making me draw a blank.

Anyways, I think this probably all comes back to the folks at eHarmony assuming that homosexuals do nothing but have sex and never actually seek a relationship. Why that's such a common thought, I dunno, but I hear and see it a lot.

It's such a common thought because so many homosexuals just want to smurf anything with the same type of genitalia that they have and don't give a smurf about being a relationship.

Somebody will very soon have wrote wrote:

How the smurf would you know that, DS?

Just because I disapprove of the whole homosexual "life"style and the gay agenda doesn't mean that I shun people just because they indulge in it, ya know. It's not like I know all that many of them personally ... between 50 and 100, I guess ... but I've never known any of them to show the slightest interest in a steady relationship, much less marriage. This tends to make me think that the whole fuss over "gay marriage" is just to yank the chains of the establishment ... something I can't very well denounce, as I have done my share of yanking on those chains through different avenues in my day but, still, suing eHarmony because they don't have a section for gays? It's just goofy. I would seriously think that all eHarmony would have to do to satisfy the terms of any lawsuit would be to put one simple sentence on their home page. Something like...

eHarmony ought to wrote:

If you're queer, click here. Get used to it.

Last edited by Duke Stratosphere (2008-11-26 11:16 am)


"Make the most of the hemp seed.  Sow it everywhere."  --George Washington (No party)

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#136 2008-11-26 11:23 am

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Re: eHarmony case

Are you trying to get banned?


I still believe in liberalism today as much as I ever did, but, oh, there was a happy time when I believed in liberals.

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#137 2008-11-26 11:31 am

JakeTheTall
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Re: eHarmony case

freecat wrote:

JakeTheTall wrote:

freecat wrote:


That's true and lunch counters are one thing. Segregated public schools, water fountains in state buildings, and city buses are another. In my view it makes no sense to abolish private discrimination. Why not abolish stupidity while you're at it.

No sense to abolish private discrimination, such as allowing employers to chose their employees based on their race, gender, religion, nationality ?

Yes. It's called freedom of association. For one thing, is all such discrimination wrong? Is it wrong that a historically black college might pass me over in favor of an African-American candidate? I don't think so. That's the upside of free association. The downside is, no matter how disgusting it is to you, someone should be free to found a David Duke College somewhere that only hires white male protestants who sign some kooky Statement of Faith. You can't have good freedom without bad.

Isn't there federal law making it illegal for employers to chose their employees based on their race, gender, religion, nationality ?


Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim.  Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet."  They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.

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#138 2008-11-26 12:29 pm

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Re: eHarmony case

Duke Stratosphere wrote:

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9021/genderqd7.png

There's a really good point. If eHarmony can be coerced into creating a whole gay dating site, then theoretically all these other online dating services could be coerced into fleshing out their gender choice menus with all of the above choices and maybe even more.

And I don't even know what half of those choices actually mean! lol

BTW, just to cover all bases.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/2958/orientcx0.png


Doctor Who might feel right at home.

Last edited by jerwin (2008-11-26 12:30 pm)


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#139 2008-11-26 12:46 pm

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Re: eHarmony case

Duke Stratosphere wrote:

Just because I disapprove of the whole homosexual "life"style and the gay agenda doesn't mean that I shun people just because they indulge in it, ya know. It's not like I know all that many of them personally ... between 50 and 100, I guess ... but I've never known any of them to show the slightest interest in a steady relationship, much less marriage. This tends to make me think that the whole fuss over "gay marriage" is just to yank the chains of the establishment ... something I can't very well denounce, as I have done my share of yanking on those chains through different avenues in my day but, still, suing eHarmony because they don't have a section for gays? It's just goofy. I would seriously think that all eHarmony would have to do to satisfy the terms of any lawsuit would be to put one simple sentence on their home page. Something like...

eHarmony ought to wrote:

If you're queer, click here. Get used to it.

Wow....you've crossed the line into sounding like one of those guys who cares a bit *too* much.

Interesting.

smile


"One thing we've learned is there's a difference between being disappointed and having madmen in authority."

                                                                   --Paul Krugman

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#140 2008-11-26 1:00 pm

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Re: eHarmony case

...and judging by the number of couples that have been married in the states where such unions are legal, it's clear that there are a good number of homosexual couples who are interested in marriage.

I've been in a monogamous relationship for 4 years.  If homosexual men have more sex, it's probably because of the male/male dynamic more than anything.  When I was younger, my single heterosexual male friends had about as much sex as they could get (which is to say, they weren't always successful).  I know that when we head downtown on a weekend here in Austin, every club is packed with young heterosexuals who appear to be searching for something more immediate than their future husbands/wives.


"One thing we've learned is there's a difference between being disappointed and having madmen in authority."

                                                                   --Paul Krugman

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#141 2008-11-26 6:43 pm

Duke Stratosphere
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Re: eHarmony case

bratboy wrote:

...and judging by the number of couples that have been married in the states whereWW such unions are legal, it's clear that there are a good number of homosexual couples who are interested in marriage.

There's no denying that.

bratboy wrote:

I've been in a monogamous relationship for 4 years.

Gets pretty smurfing old, doesn't it? lol

bratboy wrote:

If homosexual men have more sex, it's probably because of the male/male dynamic more than anything.  When I was younger, my single heterosexual male friends had about as much sex as they could get (which is to say, they weren't always successful).

They just didn't try hard enough.

bratboy wrote:

I know that when we head downtown on a weekend here in Austin, every club is packed with young heterosexuals who appear to be searching for something more immediate than their future husbands/wives.

I can't speak for the guys, but the girls are just obviously looking for me a bit too far south.


"Make the most of the hemp seed.  Sow it everywhere."  --George Washington (No party)

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#142 2008-11-27 7:43 pm

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Re: eHarmony case

JakeTheTall wrote:

freecat wrote:

JakeTheTall wrote:


No sense to abolish private discrimination, such as allowing employers to chose their employees based on their race, gender, religion, nationality ?

Yes. It's called freedom of association. For one thing, is all such discrimination wrong? Is it wrong that a historically black college might pass me over in favor of an African-American candidate? I don't think so. That's the upside of free association. The downside is, no matter how disgusting it is to you, someone should be free to found a David Duke College somewhere that only hires white male protestants who sign some kooky Statement of Faith. You can't have good freedom without bad.

Isn't there federal law making it illegal for employers to chose their employees based on their race, gender, religion, nationality ?

So?

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