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#26 2008-12-10 11:01 am
Re: Best GPS for OS X?
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That's because most of those cell phone navigation programs don't use GPS. They use cell tower triangulation to figure out where you are. The accuracy of CTT varies from "very inaccurate" to "'okay, we are somewhere in north america' inaccurate" depending on cell tower density in your area.
It'd probably take a lot of money to do (so obviously they wont) but that could probably adjust that ran to inaccurate to decent if they further calibrated the triangulation calculation algorithm using the GPS system's data as a base. Taking such steps with an increase in cellular infrastructure and/or phone capable of both CTT & real GPS would only enhance the total accuracy of the system.
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#27 2008-12-10 12:55 pm
Re: Best GPS for OS X?
mrreet2001 wrote:
I don't have a problem with "accuracy" on my blackberry pearl I have a problem with piss poor directions and roads that don't exist.
In my community - there is a road that is paved but blocked by a gate that only the police and fire department have the key to. It is a fire road only - blocked for at least a decade because the road in my community is a private road, and people in the community above me who do not pay for its maintenance were using it as access to Lake Blvd and using it at excessive speed.
Frequently people using GPS units are told to use it, but they can't. Until about a year ago, google directions said to use it. Cell phone gps units that I have seen get it right - but people with maps they bought do not. Maybe if they updated their maps they would, but that's the advantage of cell phone maps.
The real advantage to cell phone updating though is that it integrates information from state transportation agencies with respect to closed roads.
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#28 2008-12-10 12:57 pm
Re: Best GPS for OS X?
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TheUltimateMacUser wrote:
That's because most of those cell phone navigation programs don't use GPS. They use cell tower triangulation to figure out where you are. The accuracy of CTT varies from "very inaccurate" to "'okay, we are somewhere in north america' inaccurate" depending on cell tower density in your area.
It'd probably take a lot of money to do (so obviously they wont) but that could probably adjust that ran to inaccurate to decent if they further calibrated the triangulation calculation algorithm using the GPS system's data as a base. Taking such steps with an increase in cellular infrastructure and/or phone capable of both CTT & real GPS would only enhance the total accuracy of the system.
In California and Oregon it is accurate enough to give a stupid "recalculating route" message when on the offramp because you are hungry or want to take a leak. And it does so fairly quickly when on the offramp.
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#29 2008-12-10 4:30 pm
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Re: Best GPS for OS X?
Wow... lots of activity!
I'll take the time to answer the questions regarding map updates. As stated above, yes, the software for updating the maps is OS X compatible. iirc, yes, they do charge for map updates, but, you will get a certificate for a free update with your new Garmin, this way you know you are getting the latest maps available.
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#30 2008-12-10 6:21 pm
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I'll chime in for Garmin. I've got a Nuvi 350 and I love it. It's taken me all over the Upper Peninsula of Michigan with nary a wrong turn. I've also had a fantastic experience with Garmin's customer support. Nine months after purchasing the Nuvi, I smashed the screen - completely my fault, I contacted Garmin about replacing the screen, told them what happened, and expecting them to quote me a price on replacing the screen since I figured they wouldn't replace it due to the warranty not covering owner smashing, I was surprised when they asked me to send in my unit and they sent me a new one. Had it within three days. I was nothing less than impressed with everyone I talked with.
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#31 2008-12-10 9:58 pm
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So it's liooking good for Garmin. Ultimate, how good is the software? Can I see some shots of the stuff you use to input destinations. How good is it on the road? Making changes to plans in the middle of a route?
I have used two GPS' in my life. Both in the last two years. The first was a really old Garmin a friend owns. It is an older style with a serial connection to her PC. When I say old, I meant like 4 colors DOS style screen old. Never played with the software. I'm sure she replaced it by now. The other was my dad's TomTom which I used last December to get to a party. Worked great until I had to figure out which apartment the host lived in. Other than that it was great.
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#32 2008-12-10 11:01 pm
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I got my wife a TomTom a year ago. Its' great, more than great and unless you need the most up to date maps (the new ones come pre-loaded w/most recent maps anyway) then you really don't use the software, and if you do decide you want to download additional maps, its' $$$$$. Not worth it to me considering maps cost almost as much as the actual device.
If your question is strictly do they have Mac native software than the answer is yes.
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#33 2008-12-10 11:04 pm
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The problem you will have with real GPS is that in major cities, it will lose tracking of the satellites and not know where you are. This is due to tall buildings. I had that problem when I went to Sacramento - I put the GPS coordinates for the hotel into my Garmin and was unable to use it to find the hotel because it rarely could get satellite tracking. Cell phone triangulation works much better in large cities.
Interesting as my wife drives in Boston a lot and has never mentioned an issue.
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#34 2008-12-10 11:04 pm
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So it's still tied.
Well, I sent a message asking for the Garmin. But since it's late at night, I can send a followup. As I said Tom and Garmin are the two I am into. The real question is which one has better software and a better interface? Apple has spoiled me, I can't use anything if its interface is a piece of crap.
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#35 2008-12-11 9:18 am
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I honestly can't stand the interface of the garmins... you really should go test of the products first hand.
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#36 2008-12-11 12:04 pm
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Do they have them at Circuit City on display to use? CC is closer for me.
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#37 2008-12-11 12:54 pm
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If your Circuit City is still open, maybe. The store is struggling, so many of their locations closed recently.
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#38 2008-12-11 1:51 pm
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Jasoco wrote:
Do they have them at Circuit City on display to use? CC is closer for me.
I don't know if CC has live displays.
Don't you live ~15 miles from 2 best buys 
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#39 2008-12-11 4:51 pm
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Yes... well.. yes.... I do. But CC is so much closer. Unless I go to Montgomeryville. Because the other one is passed the PA TP.
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#40 2008-12-11 6:00 pm
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I guess it's all a perspective. I live out in the sticks and ANYTHING is 15 miles away and I have to travel a 24+ miles to get to a decent mall. I guess try CC if they don't have live ones ... try somewhere else 
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#41 2008-12-11 6:27 pm
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It can't hurt to call and ask.
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#42 2008-12-11 6:34 pm
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My dad tells me he used a friends Garmin the other day and it made him wish he had a Garmin instead of his TomTom. So that could be something.
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#44 2008-12-25 7:54 am
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I got a Nüvi 200w this morning. So far it's pretty sweet.
I was surprised to see there is no software in the box. But impressed to see the software isn't even required as I can do everything right from the unit. But I downloaded RoadTrip from Garmin anyway just for completion.
I also noticed it only has a car charger. But I found a USB cable for my computer that works with it and am wondering if my computer is charging it right now like the car would? And if so, could I also use an iPod's USB charging block to charge it on a wall if I had to as well? There is no meter or icon on the screen to signify that it is charging, but it does turn on and go into a "Connected to computer" mode when plugged in.
The UI is surprisingly intuitive. I am impressed. I haven't been confused by it like I have some other models. Even Dad's old TomTom was a little awkward when I used it a year ago.
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#45 2008-12-25 8:41 am
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Re: Best GPS for OS X?
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mrreet2001 wrote:
I don't have a problem with "accuracy" on my blackberry pearl I have a problem with piss poor directions and roads that don't exist.
In my community - there is a road that is paved but blocked by a gate that only the police and fire department have the key to. It is a fire road only - blocked for at least a decade because the road in my community is a private road, and people in the community above me who do not pay for its maintenance were using it as access to Lake Blvd and using it at excessive speed.
Frequently people using GPS units are told to use it, but they can't. Until about a year ago, google directions said to use it. Cell phone gps units that I have seen get it right - but people with maps they bought do not. Maybe if they updated their maps they would, but that's the advantage of cell phone maps.
The real advantage to cell phone updating though is that it integrates information from state transportation agencies with respect to closed roads.
And "Mao Quest" has taken me down fire/horse roads when traveling to homes in Athol, Mass (boondocks).
The point is nothing is perfect. But I can tell you we have never had any big issues with my wife's TomTom. If we make a wrong turn it recalculates the route. Simple.
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#46 2008-12-25 8:45 am
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I can't wait to get out and test this thing out a bit.
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#48 2008-12-25 9:19 am
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So cool. They have downloadable vehicles for the map UI. Too bad they don't have any De Loreans. I'll have to use the station wagon "Road Trip" car for now. LOL
So anyone know about the charging thing? It seems it does charge via the computer's USB port which is cool. But I just wanna know if I can also use one of those USB chargers that you get for iPods because I think I have one lying around somewhere with a USB plug. But I won't try it until I know it won't explode instead. 
And the Mac support is amazing. The vehicles downloaded right from Firefox to the unit. I didn't have to do any manual stuff.
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#50 2008-12-25 6:27 pm
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Mine does too.
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