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#51 2008-12-31 6:23 am

Pariah
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Re: Insiders say Katrina is what killed Bush

Steyr AUG wrote:

Pariah wrote:

Steyr AUG wrote:

Hardly. Having build many such supplies for a variety of people it really isnt that hard. It just takes a bit of dedication to ensuring that one has a plan to survive. Obviously many people dont.

And with the multiday lead time of HK, unless you were out on the beach waiting for it to arrive, there was plenty of forwarning to get everything together for all but the most desperatly immobile. For them the local, county and state chain of goverment was supposed to get them out, with the big .gov being called in when their abilities were overrun.

Plus, its a backpack, all you have to do is grab it.

In other words exactly the same thing you say every smurfing time Katrina comes up.

I you can't understand how people faced with the daily grind of poverty might not think about that.
Seriously dude, when you're poor and the daily problem is just keeping a roof and some food. But I bet you just can't even imagine not having one penny extra to spend.

So go back to surfing the EquipedToSurvive website. They got new LED light stuff thats cool.

If people cant/dont exert the foresight to prepare, then at least drop unreasonable belief that the .gov should be there instantly to help. Its going to take at least 72 hours whether they have supplies or not.

Funny, the Canadians beat the US responce.
Man, you would have been a great shill for the Bush administration. You got that born well off arrogance down to a smurfing science.
I doubt anyone thinks FEMA could have prevented all of the deaths in NO. But there was a great deal of incompetence in the .gov responce and not just the immediate responce but the failure after failure that came in the months following.
Acres of trailer homes stuck in Arkansas allocated to NO relief that never got there comes to mind.

But that all really misses the point of this thread. It's not that Katrina was the Bush admins worst failure, far from it. It was the straw that broke the camels back after many prior failures.

Last edited by Pariah (2008-12-31 6:30 am)


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#52 2008-12-31 9:29 am

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Re: Insiders say Katrina is what killed Bush

and for how many days was RayRay touting "The Refuge of Last Resort" which incidentally started filling early before Katrina.

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#53 2008-12-31 9:59 am

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Re: Insiders say Katrina is what killed Bush

Yup, plenty of asshollery to go around.


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#54 2008-12-31 4:12 pm

Pariah
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Re: Insiders say Katrina is what killed Bush

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Yup, plenty of asshollery to go around.

True that, but one must also remember that this is Louisiana we are talking about so incompetence and corruption at the state and local level is as predictable as the sun coming up.
I mean seriously, the stories I read of how the police went feral down there were absolutely chilling.


"and it's not surprising that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
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#55 2009-01-01 6:07 am

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Re: Insiders say Katrina is what killed Bush

Not to mention, Gonzo making NO the prototype for DHS/DoJ etc integration finessing posse comitatas, and domestic surveillance. Likely a few other metro areas, like Boston and the PD's attempt to finesse the Fourth and Second Amendments.

Drugs, gangs and the other usual suspects will be the vanguard targets for suppressing the rest of us.

Unlikely the new regime will roll any of that back.


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#56 2009-01-01 6:58 am

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Re: Insiders say Katrina is what killed Bush

I think Katrina is a skillful deflection away from disastrous fiscal, economic and foreign policy. I'd cite it as Bush's major failure if I wanted to defend an ideology that has directly led to war and nearly-directly led to economic and financial meltdown.
The response to the hurricane can be put down to incompetence of action rather than incompetence of ideology. It's not a perfect case, but under the circumstances it may be the best way to shield Bush's legacy; cite his admin for failure in a natural disaster rather than his admin's own man-made disasters.


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#57 2009-01-01 7:49 am

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Re: Insiders say Katrina is what killed Bush

Hm.

Maybe they could make a movie about it. Like this:
http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/frostnixon/

Or, like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vW2ryP16Vk

Belief in government by non-governing is of a whole piece, imho.

I met a guy over the holidays who used to live in/around NO, Gulf Coast. He told of returning to his place to retrieve whatever could be salvaged for a couple hours and coughing up blood from the mold and whatever other vile environmental toxins were let loose for weeks.

How long to this year's Mardi Gras?


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Sam Spade: You know, that's good, because if you actually were as innocent as you pretend to be, we'd never get anywhere.
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