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Maybe a few things will be revealed over the next 2 weeks. I wish.

They've done that before.

Jasoco wrote:

I never use iMovie, but I am planning a trip this summer and am really looking forward to using the new map stuff for effects.

Then you better get a Pro machine w/firewire. No "cheap" MacBook for you!

This keynote was the most disappointing ever.

I wonder if the new iMovie is more like the old but with more power. Sounds like it with the timeline and everything.

The keynote video stream is up

http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/0 … index.html

wellfleation wrote:

Jasoco wrote:

I never use iMovie, but I am planning a trip this summer and am really looking forward to using the new map stuff for effects.

Then you better get a Pro machine w/firewire. No "cheap" MacBook for you!

Not necessarily, he might have one of those toy camcorders that record on SD cards.  You know, those things that replaced floppies?

wellfleation wrote:

Gatchaman wrote:

wellfleation wrote:

Then you better get a Pro machine w/firewire. No "cheap" MacBook for you!

Not necessarily, he might have one of those toy camcorders that record on SD cards.  You know, those things that replaced floppies

Apple seems to be confused in which direction they are going. Are an either or company - consumer or pro with no middle ground prosumer in mind? If so, then where does iMovie even fit in? Its' supposed to be the everyman video editing tool and the MacBook the every man's notebook, but the the two don't mix.

You're not the only one. I'm really excited about the new iLife applications and iPhone capabilities, but with the advent of Hackintoshes and Windows 7 shaping up to be fairly decent, I still cannot justify purchasing anything in the Apple product line-up.

Donkey Butter wrote:

they are claiming 5 year battery life but if you use the laptop everyday you use up those 1000 charges in less then 3 years.  I guess they figure you will only charge your laptop once every 1.82 days

Summing up...

Apple kicked off the event by announcing a new 17" MacBook Pro, which was promoted as the "world's thinnest 17" notebook," as it's just 0.98 inches thick and weighs only 6.6 pounds.  The notebook promises 1920 x 1200 resolution and a new battery technology that is able to increase battery life to about eight hours during a single battery charge. 

The new MacBook Pro will have a Core 2 Duo processor -- 2.66 GHz -- 4GB DDR3 RAM, 320GB HDD, and NVIDIA GPUs, using a 9400M and 9600M GT.  In addition, it offers 3 USB 2.0 ports, FireWire 800, express card, glass trackpad, and a mini display port. 

Apple believes the eight-hour battery is the most innovative new feature of the laptop, as it's the longest battery life ever for an Apple product, with the company able to increase battery life while keeping the size of the laptop small.

Pricing for the latest Apple laptop will start at $2,799.  Apple expects to begin shipping the laptop later this month.

Ouch on price, but if the 8 hour battery life holds up, that's maybe half again the previous. Recharging might not be necessary every day, depending on usage.

ukimalefu wrote:

Maybe a few things will be revealed over the next 2 weeks. I wish.

They've done that before.

IIRC a new rev of the NV chipset is expected this month. If it solves the heat/reliability issues, that might be the time to intro a new Mini rev with it. It'd hurt sales (and even perhaps invite lawsuits) to say they're holding back a new Mini because of the NV chips' present problems.

One wonders about later incorporation of FW 1600/3200, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

wellfleation wrote:

This keynote was the most disappointing ever.

A Shillnote isn't quite the same, is it?

Macskeeball wrote:

I'm very disappointed that the mini was not updated. it is absurdly behind for the price. Still, though, my mom and brother need a replacement for the 7.5 year old 733MHz they're currently using, so tomorrow we'll be getting the SuperDrive model.

DON'T DO IT! They have to be planning on rolling new Mac Mini's within the next couple of weeks, probably in conjunction with iLife. If they waited this long, don't let them be suckers and buy year 1/2 old out dated equipment at a way inflated price (these old machines just don't cut it in relation to price vs performance). It will just make the next upgrade to be needed that much quicker.

I know the old saying if you wait you will always be waiting as there will always be something better in the future. But I think this rule does not apply in this case. The Mac Mini has just been waaaaaay over due for an update. Tell them to hang in there till the end January.

Man, I'd hold off for just a few more weeks.  That thing is going to be updated and the specs are going to make you sick when you compare it to what you'd buy today.

unshavenyak wrote:

I'm really excited about the new ... iPhone capabilities...

What'd I miss?

No, seriously. I wasn't paying full attention but I don't remember hearing anything about iPhone stuff.

You can also put iPhoto slideshows (which have new themes) on the iPhone and iPod touch.

wellfleation wrote:

Gatchaman wrote:

wellfleation wrote:

Then you better get a Pro machine w/firewire. No "cheap" MacBook for you!

Not necessarily, he might have one of those toy camcorders that record on SD cards.  You know, those things that replaced floppies

Apple seems to be confused in which direction they are going. Are an either or company - consumer or pro with no middle ground prosumer in mind? If so, then where does iMovie even fit in? Its' supposed to be the everyman video editing tool and the MacBook the every man's notebook, but the the two don't mix.

All right, so first of all. LOL

Anyway, I see what you mean. But..

I have a MacBook. The one with the FireWire still in it, but I have no intention of getting a DV Camcorder with FireWire. If I do get one, it will have USB if not both. Just because I am prepared for the impending demise of FW. I do have a silly digital camera, a Kodak Z700 that has video capture that I would use if I didn't get a DV Camera. But I will probably do some shopping around for a cheap as hell USB DV Camcorder later this year before I take the trip. Hell, I'm not looking to make a professional movie here so I might just get one of those new what do you call thems? Flips or whatever? They work with OS X, right? And I assume the video files are compatable with iMovie.

iSam wrote:

re the non-removable battery - I've had a couple of occasions to yank a battery out of a laptop.

Once was when the thing seized up and the only way to reset it was to remove all power sources.  The second was quite recently when I spilt a glass of water over my MacBook Pro.  Immediate removal of power and battery is (I understand) rather important when that happens.

Neither of these scenarios would allow this now.

Indeed, I have never actually changed battery in any laptop, however my friends and I have had liquid spills several times. It always went fine, but we removed the battery.

My guess is the gotchas will be that the standard drive capacity and processor speed will be higher but still inferior to any other Mac (odds are 100%), the RAM will have an official ram ceiling of 4 GB but like the MacBooks & 15" MBP unofficially accept more though if you try to put 8 GB in it will become unstable and it will still be a PITA to upgrade the RAM (odds are 90%). The only other gotcha I can imagine is FireWire but since this is a desktop unit and doesn't run on batteries i say the odds of that gotcha are lower (50%).

Beyond that them using the Mini DisplayPort thing makes a pretty good gotcha in that if you have one or more old VGA monitors, more than one DVI adaptor, or one or more WQXGA DVI monitors you WILL probably have to spend extra on the proper adaptors or replacement monitors.

Then again the big gotcha could be with the iMac. What do you think are the odds that they are going to go quad core?